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1. Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:20:54 JST Thorwegian ❄️

   it looks like one of the reasons they're so strict about #ADHD diagnoses here is simply about capacity, according to this news story i'm reading:

   https://www.nrk.no/rogaland/maja-brukte-sparepengene-pa-adhd-diagnosen-_-men-fikk-ikke-hjelp-av-det-offentlige-helsevesenet-1.16410027

   the public mental healthcare system is completely overwhelmed. it doesn't have enough money and resources and must triage heavily.

   some people get diagnosed by private healthcare providers and pay big sums for it, yet still get turned down for further assistance when they return to the public healthcare system afterwards. a diagnosis isn't enough. it must be a very serious case to be eligible for therapy.

   this severe under-capacity explains a lot. that's why they offer so little help. best you can hope for is medications or welfare money.

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:20:49 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @thor @Phil breakfast ng bad is about a highschool chemistry teacher who discovered a way to help his students focus on their work better (methamphetamine)
   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:20:50 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     @Phil what was Breaking Bad all about then? i'm asking because i keep hearing these stories of people who can't seem to get healthcare because they're afraid of the bills.

   • The Felon Pope :popephil: (phil@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:20:51 JST The Felon Pope :popephil:

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     @thor in my entire life in the US it has never been true that you couldn't get health care if you couldn't afford it.

   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:20:52 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     "limited money and resources" isn't something you associate with Scandinavia, but when a healthcare system must try to help everyone (even people who wouldn't normally be covered by health insurance) everything has to be spread more thinly.

     the speed and frequency of care you get as a working person is reduced somewhat, because your tax money is also subsidising healthcare for the poor and the disabled.

     in countries where you actually have to be able to afford health insurance or pay in cash to even get help (the United States mostly), nothing is subsidised. those people just fall off a cliff.

   • Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:33:36 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @thatguyoverthere @thor @Phil that typo makes me wonder what a breaking bad version of breakfast club would be like.

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:33:36 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @ned @thor @Phil fucking predictive text lmao
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:37:53 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @thor @Phil
     
     He chose to go to specialists that his insurance didn't cover iirc. It's a fiction, but you could choose to see people that don't accept your insurance if you wanted to. In Canada they'd just offer medical assistance in dying.
   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:37:54 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     @thatguyoverthere @Phil or possibly assumed it was, because someone jokes the plot couldn't possibly happen in Canada (and medications were involved). i never watched it.

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   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:37:55 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     @thatguyoverthere @Phil i heard it was about making drugs because someone couldn't afford healthcare

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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:47:45 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @thor @Phil yeah I don't know. insurance is a racket. Generally speaking you would go to a gp (general practitioner) and they would recommend specialists if necessary that are in network for your insurance. If no specialists are covered most insurance companies still offer an out of network rate if you were referred by someone in network.
     
     For mental health you don't need an "ADHD" specialist. You just need a psychiatrist. It is possible some insurance companies don't cover mental health, but I don't know. Normally dental and vision are separate but I've never seen a separate plan for mental health. ADHD medication aligns perfectly with the alternative plot I provided for breaking bad though :smirk:
   • Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:47:46 JST Thorwegian ❄️

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     @thatguyoverthere @Phil i see. i was just talking to someone with ADHD who searched for the right specialist for 2 years, but his insurance isn't accepted. in a field like mental healthcare, you can't just swap one specialist for another. humans are complex.

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   • dew_the_dew :verified: (dew_the_dew@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:48:42 JST dew_the_dew :verified:

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     like holy shit just buy adderall from the darkweb. healthcare just makes everything more expensive. if you try to cover everyone you will have retard frequent fliers that will simply vacuum up resources and $$$.
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   • dew_the_dew :verified: (dew_the_dew@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:48:57 JST dew_the_dew :verified:

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     ITS JUST ADHD THEY JUST GIVE YOU SPEED THEY COULD BE EMULATED WITH AI EVEN PRE-LLM CHATGPT ERA
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   • Mark (mark@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 19:59:25 JST Mark

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     @dew_the_dew @thor @thatguyoverthere @Phil ADHD is not real but yes. If you want amphetamines, just buy amphetamines. You don't need a guy to give his opinion and approval to buy stuff.
     Also it's a lot cheaper and easier to just buy it from the darknet.
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