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Make Marriage Great again
1. Get Rid of Gay Marriage. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Trannies obviously don't count.
2. Get rid of no-fault divorce.
3. Criminalize adultery. Doing porn while married also counts.
4. Reform the tax code to heavily favor married couples over unmarried individuals.
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@ArdainianRight 5. outlaw pornography. you wanna get off get married.
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@flux_the_cat We're working on that. These are first steps where everyone still technically has the "right" to engage in sexual immorality, only they can only do so outside of marriage and thus must pay considerably higher taxes. We can worry about filling in the gaps later. Soft incentives towards moral behavior are how you get started.
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@c It won't get too punitive until you're actually rich. It's important for wealthy and prominent people to set a good example instead of the exact opposite we have now.
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Just as long as you don't make it punitive to be single. What will happen otherwise is young women will continue to be whores and young men will end up footing the bill for every betabux faggot who decides to sweep it up for free.
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@ArdainianRight decriminalizing adultery is definitely the #1 reason marriage is a joke now. Bring back public stonings I want to throw rocks at adulterers as a fun pastime. Make it apart of the renaissance fair
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@wgiwf I deliberately picked baby mode training wheels sexual morality because of how depraved modern America is. All leftists and more than a few "rightists" would sperg out over even these minimal standards.
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@ArdainianRight Ban divorce. Even before no-fault divorce there was a destructive divorce culture in America. Only the church should be allowed to annul a marriage.
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@ArdainianRight To be frank, I would actually expect more long term resistance to restrictions to divorce from "conservative" circles given the cultural and religious history of many of them.
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I know plenty of 30 year old guys with nobody and no one who could not afford to get raped even harder by taxes. That's all.
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@c Understandable. In general I support appropriate frugality in public affairs so the goal would in most cases to be heavily cutting taxes on married couples as opposed to penalizing singles, even moreso for married couples with kids.
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@SpurgAnon No, the state is needed to uphold a unified moral vision for society. Making all morality private is what got us into this mess.
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@ArdainianRight how to actually make marriage great again:
>promote the idea that marriage is purely a religious action
>remove the state and its authority from the concept or prescription of marriage
>revoke all tax exemptions and more
>publicly proclaim that anyone who isn't married in a proper religious ceremony and adhering to it is in fact not married
Those who honor marriage will keep it, rug pulling the concept from midwits and subhumans will literally save the concept.
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@ArdainianRight lmao, no the opposite is true. In the 90s morality was stripped from the churches and from God, and the state became the authority on all things moral.
The private morality still shames women for divorcing, especially for no reason. The publicly funded government morality promotes the idea of no fault divorce.
The choice is clear imo
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@SpurgAnon What the state declares to be moral sets the standard for what the regular people consider to be normal. State immorality undermines church authority and encourages the church to water down its message.
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@brimshae @SpurgAnon Not controlling the state, and even moreso not controlling the media that sets the state agenda, is what got us into this mess.
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@ArdainianRight @SpurgAnon
Relying on the state is part of what got us in this mess.
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@brimshae @SpurgAnon America fell because it allowed the entertainment industry to be controlled by Communists and Communist sympathizers, even though they were textbook traitors providing aid and comfort to an enemy power. McCarthy's only mistake was not going hard enough.
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@SpurgAnon @ArdainianRight in a majority atheist society you’re giving no incentive for marriage, which is how you get even more dopamine addicted whores running their way through the top 5% of men and an even more desperate and disgruntled thirsty underclass
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@hachi I can cure her.
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@ArdainianRight But same-sex couples are cute and fun. Personally, I think you could really use a lesbian best friend.
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@hachi Lesbians aren't real. Give them the right kind of man and they'll flip on the spot.
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@ArdainianRight But being gay or lesbian makes opposite sex friendships more fun.
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@sapphire @ArdainianRight and how do you honestly think creating a gibs system for parenthood is going to actually work out? :tanya_laugh:
Honestly?
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@SpurgAnon @ArdainianRight you seem to have missed reality where you have to provide some strong material incentive to get, and most importantly STAY married.
Remember, Hitler outright paid people to get married and produce children, handed out medals to mothers.
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@SpurgAnon @ArdainianRight yeah, if you’re an idealist and expect people to just magically follow your religion overnight sure.
While we’re making retarded wishes I want time travel
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@sapphire @ArdainianRight You seemed to have missed the part about stripping the title and govt incentives that are used for larp-"marriages".
This is idealism; it's consequence learning.
Whores wont ever allow themselves to be pledged to man religiously without incentive or the ability to rob said man; it'd take less than two years for people to notice that trend and correct for it socially. Longterm people would begin to understand why marriage is a religious behavior.
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@sapphire @ArdainianRight exactly, so we should create a social identify for religion and fidelity by making "marriage" directly correlated to such
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@SpurgAnon @sapphire Just paying people to have kids without any other qualifications in America is sure to be heavily exploited by certain demographics. This is why I start with marital fidelity as opposed to raw natalism. The black underclass shouldn't be much affected either way by my proposals, because they don't get married anyways and don't make enough money for tax incentives to mean much.
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@SpurgAnon @sapphire I don't think it even needs a religious justification. Just marriage actually meaning something as an institution and incentivizing good behavior has plenty of secular benefits.
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@ArdainianRight @sapphire my focus is moreso by forcing religious morality back into it.
There'd be insane outrage from fags and more to suddenly discover they weren't "married" anymore, nor entitled to tax credit by my rug pull. And they'd have to just sit there and deal with it.
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@ArdainianRight @sapphire
The point is though: secular society has failed. It's time to get people to realize that.
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@SpurgAnon @sapphire The stuff I initially proposed represents a very small step in that direction.
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@ArdainianRight @sapphire if you fix parts of the problem, people will trust in the secular build again and the problem begins again. Imo it'd be best to just euthanize it at this point
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@SpurgAnon @sapphire Not unreasonable. I do think priming people in the right direction by putting basic stuff like this out there is good.
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