Conversation

Notices

1. cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:16:02 JST cream queen

   • cool_boy_mew
   @coolboymew seriously are there any benefits to webp? Why change to something else when jpg, png, and gif have worked for years
   • cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:16:01 JST cream queen

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     @coolboymew my computer doesn't even support webp files and the only way to view them is by using Microsoft edge
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:16:09 JST cool_boy_mew

     in reply to
     @creamqueen according to the /g/ thread, png quality with jpg file size
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:17:54 JST cool_boy_mew

     in reply to
     @creamqueen for mass website hosting it's kind of a big deal
   • cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:17:55 JST cream queen

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     @coolboymew who actually cares about file size that much for images that don't even take a lot of space, it's different when the image is like 23mb but that's never the case
   • Nishi (nishi@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:18:21 JST Nishi

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     @creamqueen @coolboymew says the person who tried to add trans flag w/ isis logo which is like 83mb
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:21:24 JST meso

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • Nishi
     @Nishi @creamqueen @coolboymew :big_trans:
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:22:00 JST cool_boy_mew

     in reply to

     • meso
     • Nishi
     @meso @creamqueen @Nishi so big I had to force it to start to load and it gave up halfway through
   • gogo (re9177@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:22:15 JST gogo

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     @meso @Nishi @coolboymew @creamqueen
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:39:37 JST Dushman

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo

     @re9177@the.asbestos.cafe @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe @coolboymew@shitposter.club @creamqueen@clubcyberia.co
     
     Webp is good actually, it has very efficient compression.

     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:41:02 JST cream queen

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     @dushman @Nishi @meso @re9177 @coolboymew but why would I care about compression when the other files work fine
   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:41:02 JST Dushman

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo

     @creamqueen@clubcyberia.co @Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @re9177@the.asbestos.cafe @coolboymew@shitposter.club
     Less resoource usage for both the server and the client

     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:42:19 JST smug

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     1) server host has to pay less for the bandwidth and storage, which are the biggest costs for them, end user has to download less, making it take less time and using less data, which is still relevant for mobile users, but some desktop users as well (rip). a 90% difference is massive (see https://squoosh.app/)
     3) the end user doesn't notice the difference if they are just scrolling past an image or something
     4) old formats are inefficient due to older tech.
     5) webm (webp is based on that) vs h264 was a massive fight with licenses and different tech companies picked their side a decade ago. There is a reason apple can't play webms (they put their focus on h264), why you need to buy a hevc codec for 89 cents in the MS store and why you can't display webps on windows images. Because fuck you.
     6) AVIF (and AV1) is the new hot kid on the block all the tech companies decided was _the_ new thing. No loicense or any of that shit. Guess what can be displayed in safari AND windows image viewer without a problem, despite being rather new? The sad side of this that anything that isn't AVIF is getting shit on, like JPEGXL, which seems a hype af tech which would allow another massive savings, is backwards compatible to jpg and still is fast (this is a problem WEBP and AVIF have, they are SLOOOW to encode, webp is still tolerable though. Using AV1 HW might change that but that's still rather new)
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:42:36 JST smug

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew

     based

     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:42:37 JST cream queen

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • smug
     @smug @coolboymew i don't care about the server host though
   • Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:46:55 JST Johnny Peligro

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     avif > niggerp
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • Paulo (paulo@marsey.moe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:50:12 JST Paulo

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     space savings for gifs are a little different because
     1. gifs fuck your image quality
     2. gifs scale in linearly with video length
     
     so yeah stop using fucking gifs, if you are that much of a prick you don't want to use webp, there's still animated pngs
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:50:13 JST Dushman

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo

     @re9177@the.asbestos.cafe @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe @coolboymew@shitposter.club @creamqueen@clubcyberia.co
     Also supports animations while wasting like 4x less space than gifs for that

   • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts: (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:12:24 JST Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • Paulo
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     @paulo @creamqueen @dushman @coolboymew @Nishi @meso @re9177 >so yeah stop using fucking gifs
     kiss my ass
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:12:49 JST Johnny Peligro

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • Paulo
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     it was just 1 image. but fair.
   • Paulo (paulo@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:12:50 JST Paulo

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • Johnny Peligro
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     aviggers when their image randomly breaks and doesn't load (there was a bug on the encoder) :trollinsane:
     
     maybe when it's a finished product i'll use it :marseysleep:
   • Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:13:11 JST Johnny Peligro

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • Paulo
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     yeah it's gonna be hard for avif or jpegxl to gain traction
     cool_boy_mew likes this.
   • Paulo (paulo@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:13:12 JST Paulo

     in reply to

     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • Nishi
     • Johnny Peligro
     • gogo
     • Dushman
     2 images i've encountered so far
     and i rarely ever see avif images
     cool_boy_mew likes this.