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1. ren (renai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:31 JST ren
   the knowledge of good and evil and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
   • Kek Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:20 JST Kek Kerel

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     • Griffith
     @renai @Griffith There's a distinction between objects perceptible to the senses and objects only perceptible to the spirit.
   • Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:22 JST Griffith

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     @renai Then how shall I understand Christianity, and contemplate it at all, let alone follow it or accept it as my religion, or understand what it means as my religion?
     I have to know something to practice faith. Religion isn't above contemplation and answers.
   • ren (renai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:22 JST ren

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     • Griffith
     @Griffith all the necessary answers are provided really
     Machismo repeated this.
   • Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:24 JST Griffith

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     @renai What does this mean?
   • ren (renai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:24 JST ren

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     • Griffith
     @Griffith it means that fundamentally these things are above our understanding, and that the wisdom of the world is really foolishness. even buddhism has a similar concept with the demon of dialectics which makes us ask questions like "why was i born? why was the world created? how? what is the meaning of life? why is this divine thing a certain way and not another?"
   • Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:26 JST Griffith

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     @renai I'm not a Christian and I can't be because it doesn't make sense. I've over-thought it for years and I still can't make it make sense. I'm still very interested in Christian theology, and I think a lot of the ideas that come out of it are very solid and interesting, but I can't make the religion make sense.
   • ren (renai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:26 JST ren

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     • Griffith
     @Griffith you're going about it the wrong way
     
     1 Corinthians 1:27
     But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
   • ren (renai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:28 JST ren

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     • Griffith
     @Griffith what do you mean to say with this?
   • Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jun-2023 22:02:30 JST Griffith

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     @renai Look, all I'm saying is God knows everything, so God knew this was going to happen before he created humanity, or even Lucifer, or even anything or anyone. He could have just kept Satan out and as far as we know no one would have eaten the forbidden fruit without his interference. If this wasn't meant to happen it wouldn't have, so we have to assume we're here for a reason and this isn't a mistake, if you follow the message of the story. If it was then idk how God works because he should know everything and be able to do anything so logically this should have been an avoidable outcome.