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1. sj_zero (sj_zero@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2023 07:06:16 JST sj_zero
   Both facebooks messenger and Google talk had periods where they were xmpp compatible, and if you look at a lot of xmpp clients, they're basically stuck in that exact era.
   
   These big companies are dangerous. One difference is that this time we know they're dangerous. Many of us specifically left their services because we viscerally understand they're dangerous.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2023 07:06:14 JST xianc78

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     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

     @caekislove @sj_zero @realcaseyrollins The true solution is to make these protocols easy to implement. I think something like twtxt would be our best bet. It's just a textfile and can even be hosted on any web server, including static-only ones, or you can easily make a front-end for less savvy users.

   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2023 07:06:15 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     @sj_zero @realcaseyrollins You wanna know how the internet went from a series of federated and/or peer-to-peer protocols to the silicon valley monopolies today? Embrace, Extend, and then Extinguish.
     
     We need newer and better protocols that will let independent operators AKA "sysops" take back control over the internet.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2023 07:24:48 JST xianc78

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     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

     @caekislove @sj_zero @realcaseyrollins The other solution would be a totally P2P social network, but it seems like every attempt at one has failed because

     1. P2P by it's very nature requires everyone to expose their IP address to everyone else unless they are using a VPN/Proxy/Tor
     2. They usually require you to install a desktop client when most people are use to using social media from their web browser, if they are doing it on their computer
     3. Most of them use blockchain technology which does not automatically mean that it is completely decentralized
     4. A separate protocol like BitTorrent or IPFS needs to be used to handle media. I've lurked Bastyon and most people host their media on Imgur of all places.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2023 07:30:03 JST xianc78

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     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

     @caekislove @sj_zero @realcaseyrollins One based on I2P would be even better........

     ....okay, now that I think about it, both ideas would just be unmoderated, anonymous CP havens where you have to pray that you don't accidentally see cheese pizza every time you check your feed.

   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2023 07:30:04 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 @sj_zero @realcaseyrollins A Tor-first distributed P2P social network could be neat. Of course people would whine about the "weird" domain names, like they do with nostr, though!