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1. Clive Thompson (clive@saturation.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:33:47 JST Clive Thompson

   Reddit's CEO is attacking Reddit moderators, calling them spoiled "landed gentry" who are messing up his service ...

   ... when in reality Reddit mods do over $3.4 million in free labor annually, as per a recent scholarly estimate

   And that's a lowballed, conservative estimate

   My essay on it here: https://clivethompson.medium.com/reddit-moderators-do-over-3-4-million-in-free-labor-every-year-d3571235c32c

   A "friend" link in case you're not a Medium subscriber: https://clivethompson.medium.com/reddit-moderators-do-over-3-4-million-in-free-labor-every-year-d3571235c32c?sk=8526a9c3671885cce45a2bd3d1e36b82

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:33:41 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • Jon
     @jdp23 @clive Jannies are the lowest subhumans our world is cursed with. Moderation is gay and retarded and all you fags have monkeypox.
   • Jon (jdp23@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:33:42 JST Jon

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     • Sarah Gilbert

     @clive not sure if you've seen @sarahgilbert's excellent paper on intersectional moderation. It'd take more than 466 person-hours a week to apply that approach reddit wide! https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.11250.pdf

     More positively I think there's a huge potential opportunity here, to bring a strong moderation focus and tooling to support it to the fediverse - kbin and lemmy most obviously, ideally more broadly as well. We shall see.

   • Clive Thompson (clive@saturation.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:33:43 JST Clive Thompson

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     • Jon

     @jdp23

     Indeed!

   • Jon (jdp23@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:33:44 JST Jon

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     @clive agreed, although since tasks like deliberation that don't show up in the moderator logs and isn't counted in the estimate, it's almost certainly a significant underestimate (or a lower bound, as the authors describe it). I found myself wondering if reddit's thinking "hey no prob, we'll just pay for some of the modeation ourself if necessary, it's less than it costs us to support Apollo et al." If so, good luck with that!😂

   • Clive Thompson (clive@saturation.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:33:45 JST Clive Thompson

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     • Jon

     @jdp23

     It’s an interesting paper, very readable!

   • Jon (jdp23@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:33:46 JST Jon

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     @clive Good essay! And I appreciated the link out to the paper estimating that moderators do 466 person-hours of work per day, I've seen th $3.4 million/year number tossed around a lot and wondered where it came from.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:51:37 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • Christi Junior
     • LimeGreenTeknii
     @ChristiJunior @LimeGreenTeknii @clive They're much closer to a deeply embedded mold.
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:51:42 JST Christi Junior

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     • LimeGreenTeknii
     @LimeGreenTeknii @clive I'd describe Reddit Mods in far harsher terms myself....
   • limegreenteknii@mastodon.social's status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 02:51:44 JST LimeGreenTeknii

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     @clive The gall of Reddit's CEO to call someone else landed gentry...

   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 03:41:50 JST Christi Junior

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     • MissConstrue
     • yoasif
     @MissConstrue @clive @yoasif You're a retard who supports niggers and trannies, your opinion is worth less than the life of a tranny nigger with AIDS.
     luithe likes this.
   • MissConstrue (missconstrue@mefi.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 03:41:57 JST MissConstrue

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     • yoasif

     @clive @yoasif this was really well written. Thank you.

   • yoasif@mastodon.social's status on Monday, 19-Jun-2023 03:41:58 JST yoasif

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     @clive I've got an essay on this too, and I'd be floored if you read it (long, unfortunately).

     PS: I'm also a moderator of a 150k+ subscriber subreddit.

     https://www.quippd.com/writing/2023/05/03/with-its-API-update-reddit-should-start-paying-its-users.html