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1. xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:41:44 JST xianc78

   What's the point of using Lemmy if all the instances are blocking each other? Just go back to forums.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:54:13 JST xianc78

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     Also why is Lemmy using ActivityPub? It should be using it's own protocol instead of one that is intended for microblogging.

   • :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:57:42 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

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     @xianc78 Peertube uses AP too and that's just for video. It seems pretty robust.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:58:42 JST xianc78

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     • :meru_B: b e a r d

     @beardalaxy Using a microblogging protocol for a video host does make sense because you are subscribing to channels which is like following users.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:59:50 JST xianc78

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲

     @threalist @realcaseyrollins None. The social news format is terrible. Up/downvotes and karma create a groupthink mentality and elitist culture that is even worse than traditional forums.

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   • Three-alist 🌲 (threalist@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:59:51 JST Three-alist 🌲

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     • realcaseyrollins
     So, ..what's a good Lemmy instance?
     
     @realcaseyrollins
   • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts: (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:11:31 JST Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • meso
     @meso @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins why do they hate cops so much when communism rests entirely upon cops and similar government organs to keep up the needed social norms?
     seriously do they really think their anarchist "communism" will take off when they won't even have a government? never send me links like that again it hurts my fucking brains trying to understand westoids
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   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:11:32 JST meso

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     @lina @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins it's lemmygrad.ml learn more at lemmygrad.ml the
   • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts: (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:11:33 JST Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     @threalist @xianc78 @realcaseyrollins a self-hosted one
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:19:28 JST xianc78

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • meso

     @lina @threalist @realcaseyrollins @meso Anarchy means without rulers.
     An - without
     archos - rulers

     No mention of rules there. I do agree that anarcho-communism is impossible, but I don't want to go into another ancap vs ancom debate again so I'm leaving that here.

   • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts: (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:19:29 JST Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • meso
     @meso @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins purely theoretical in these days
     but even as you describe it, no central governments or hierarchies for a political system that rests entirely upon a central government with a strict hierarchy and order? that's retarded no matter how appealing it might sound
     in my eyes anarchism is disorder for the sake of disorder, it's not anarchy if you still have some coherent sense of order, even gangs aren't anarchists despite causing disorder since they have some sort of order, but let's say take a whole bunch of coked up mental ward escapees and force them into one group, now that's anarchy even if they will shank each other
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:19:30 JST meso

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     @lina @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins both are based
     politically anarchy is not having any central governments or hierarchies though that was obviously the case like 3000 years ago and it went to shit
   • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts: (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:19:31 JST Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • meso
     @meso @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins it's not anarchy when you have a self-governing community, it's just independence, anarchy is when you steal booze, take over a dumpster and set it on fire as you drink the stolen booze while fighting off the police and then you do time in the joint after that
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:19:32 JST meso

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     @lina @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins anarcho-communists don't, depends on the person but usually they want independent self-governing communes. anarchists are often nonsensical or just want things that are simply bad. I think a sensible version of socialism is one where workers rule their workplaces in a market
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:48:39 JST xianc78

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     • realcaseyrollins
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     • Ghast

     @realcaseyrollins @ghast @threalist
     >TheDonald
     >Dank memes
     >Dank Microwave Taco

     Are these people stuck in 2016? You also have an active community for COVID discussions. How behind are these people?

   • realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:48:40 JST realcaseyrollins

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     • Three-alist 🌲
     • Ghast

     @ghast @threalist @xianc78 Lol nah, it’s really not that bad

     Just join exploding-heads.com, you’ll see

   • Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:48:41 JST Ghast

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲

     @threalist @xianc78 @realcaseyrollins I think this is a contradiction in terms.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:51:28 JST xianc78

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     • realcaseyrollins
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     • Ghast

     @icedquinn @ghast @threalist @realcaseyrollins This just reminds me why I never liked Reddit.

   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 03:51:29 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • Ghast
     @xianc78 @realcaseyrollins @ghast @threalist > posts made while pooping
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:48:02 JST xianc78

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • meso
     • rdr

     @realcaseyrollins @lina @rdr @threalist @meso He's either an idiot or a troll. He thinks that ancaps are for central banks.

   • realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:48:03 JST realcaseyrollins

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • meso
     • rdr

     @rdr @meso @lina @xianc78 @threalist Y’all shoulda been homeschooled 😂 that’s not capitalism at all

   • rdr (rdr@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:48:04 JST rdr

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
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     • meso
     @meso @lina @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins socialism in one country with limited immigration
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:48:05 JST meso

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
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     • meso
     @lina @realcaseyrollins @threalist @xianc78 capitalism is just state communism but it's corporations and rich people owning everything instead of the state. Both suck ass, both lead to the same thing
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:48:06 JST meso

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     @lina @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins that's true, but soviet communists argue that the way "the workers own the means of production" is by the government owning the means of production for them and centralizing planning. which is retarded, that's the government owning the means of production.
     
     libertarian socialists argue that owning the means of production would mean that workers get to decide how their organization runs and etc, I think that's sensible
   • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts: (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:48:07 JST Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:

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     • realcaseyrollins
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     • meso
     @meso @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins communism, since that's what we're talking about, does it not?
     that's how the soviet union did things even if there was a disconnect in terms of the chain of command between subjects simply because of human nature, also i guess actually intentional autonomy too, but overall, it needs a central government to function the way it's supposed to as it's meant to regulate everything, and yeah, the west is trying to pull the same shit too but much gayer and sinisterer
   • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 10:48:08 JST meso

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲
     @lina @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins >no central governments or hierarchies for a political system that rests entirely upon a central government with a strict hierarchy and order?
     what political system rests entirely upon a central government?
   • realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:19:58 JST realcaseyrollins

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     • Lina Inver:z:e :mur_close: :nuts:
     • Three-alist 🌲
     • meso
     • rdr

     @xianc78 @lina @rdr @threalist @meso Yeah…kinda obvious tbh

     I’m more inclined to think he’s an idiot rather than a troll tho

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   • Wrongthink (wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 13:38:49 JST Wrongthink

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     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲

     @xianc78 @threalist @realcaseyrollins And the mentality has begun to infest traditional forums. I am one some where I often see users post a new threat that is literally just a hyperlink and some uncreative title. They think they’re using reddit or something.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 18-Jun-2023 00:31:55 JST xianc78

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     • Wrongthink
     • realcaseyrollins
     • Three-alist 🌲

     @wrongthink @threalist @realcaseyrollins Honestly, I've seen that even before Reddit got popular. The news sections on most forums usually had people just posting links and maybe a the first paragraph of the article. And can you really blame them when most news sites don't even have comment sections anymore or are set to moderator approved, paywalled, and/or require a real name?

     The "karma" system has also been a problem on traditional forums even before Reddit. GameFAQs had (and probably still has) something similar, and a lot of forums have "VIP members" to indicate long time users who have made "quality posts". It's part of the reason why I prefer imageboards because complete anonymity means that posts are judged by their content and not by the poster.