Is there an old net movement somewhere with a website, arguments and etc?
Listening to @All_bonesJones going on about some Twitch streamer unhappy about Twitch policies and apparently Twitch staff came to talk shit in the chat and dude could not ban them or something
I suggested moving to their own website for streaming. I know it's possible to still have bits, subs, donation and co via outside services too
Also, as far as I know, a lot of youtubers already doesn't rely on ads, they rely on outside subs, and they might be entirely demonetized already anyways
IMO it's about time a lot of people just go old school and start moving their shit on personal websites already
@coolboymew With my current issues I've been pretty much out of the loop for a while, I'm sorry, I can't help more other than shitposting right now :sadge: Even tho I have my my own issue with it's design, the closest thing from functioning imo is peertube. But again it demands either for people to learn new skills, or buy the skills of someone else to setup, and viewers to learn some minimum digital hygiene.
@mangeurdenuage I'm not asking for direct solutions from you, I'm asking if there's an "old net movement" just like you can link me to a free software movement
@icedquinn@colinsmatt11@All_bonesJones Well the thing is that a bunch of these venues are not quite paying in the first place. Twitch has been trying to ban sponsors and stuff, etc
@coolboymew@All_bonesJones a lot of these people rely on discoverability. if you already have a fanbase you can get like 50% of them to follow you to kick but 100% of kick users already have their favorite streamer there. this is always the problem with social media alternatives, and in the case of video content its even worse reliance on a recommended algorithm. best thing you can do for video is a yt cut that contains an ad offsite. livestreaming sites all have a clause preventing restreaming to other sites so you have to do twice the work if you wanna maintain your twitch audience who havent moved yet
@coolboymew A lot of people view YouTube, Twitch etc via mobile devices... and this is probably one of the biggest issues if we tried to revert to everyone having their own websites (and linked together with RSS). Not to say it's insurmountable, especially with progressive web apps and the like... it'd just take a lot of unlearning ingrained habits. The most recent Twitter and Reddit backlash seems to have pushed more people to the fediverse, which might make them appreciate non-centralised services more... but yeah. Probably not :0010:
@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones basically, with them attempting to ban sponsors and such, the venture capitalist money is running out and it's about to go very bad soon
@coolboymew@All_bonesJones i find its easier to ride the wave of opportunity than attempt going back to the past. people make money when theres money to be made, then stop when the gold has dried up. going back to the "just for fun" stream method is probably the ideal outcome. hell, big streamers should be paying twitch to host their shit, not the other way around
@why@All_bonesJones except I'm not advocating it to be just for fun, it's still possible to get subs, bits, donation, etc. this way and it's possible to do it all without having to be stuck on Twitch or Youtube
@coolboymew@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones The problem is all of these tech companies are bleeding add revenue hence the mass tech layoffs. They are trying to find new revenue streams because it turns out infinite stonk growth without actually turning a profit is not a viable business strategy. This is for 2 reasons. Covid is over so people are going outside instead of being on their computers all day and Everyone not retarded uses ad-blockers. The kinds of advertizing that actually get past the adblocks are when a creator does live reads on the show like when Ben Shapiro goes into a live read like clockwork every single video. The platforms aren't getting a cut of that advertising thus their content creators are now their competition. TLDR Shit's fucked.
@coolboymew@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones Well shit's fucked if you went to school to learn 2 code and now live in some expensive studio shit hole near a tech hub and were accustomed to a 6 figure salary. Its also fucked if you graduating in the next few years want to get a tech job lol.
@LorgarAurelian1488@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones sad for these people, but the whole thing is a shitshow anyways, make a 100k salary and all you'll get is a small studio over there. California needs a wake up slap, and stuff needs to fuck off from it
well yes, gotta generate more money, fiduciary duty and all that. Google is getting fucked harder because their search engine is trash and <AI chatbot> just gives you all the (wrong) answers anyway. Google even dumped their domain shit because lol money.
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew There is still one AI problem that they are working on solving, once solve we are basically screwed. There is a Ghost in the algorithms that causes the AI to make a decision that its highly confident in that is not based on any of its training data causing it to just make shit up on the fly that has no basis in reality.
because it can’t make decisions, that will take another REALLY long time. I believe moon said it well, it was something along the lines of “chatgpt sounds smart, but actually isn’t”
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew The AI generated brain rot is going to be the big hurdle. They are going to have to pass laws to keep kids off the internet until they go to college.
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew I can forsee the total de-anonamitization of the internet because people will need an ID to use the web just like they need it to buy beer.
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew Yeah there will still be people needed to make decisions, but the number of people in companies who actually make decisions are a few upper level managers while the rest of the workers job is to gather and organize shit loads of data to show to the decision makers. AI will be doing this in the future.
Researchers say we will have AGI by like 2059. Managers do love chatgpt because they can be even lazier by just feeding their financial reports into some machine and it says “beep boop, money go up”, but you still need to double check if it’s actually true, so you could have done it in the first place. Furthermore you induce AI generated brain rot because people won’t be able to think on their own. But hey, managers think metaverse gonna pop off because their entire job is to generate hype.
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew If implemented probably won't be something dumb like a drivers license. Likely facial recognition and biometrics from a camera plugged into your computer just to connect to the public internet.
It’s funny you say that, BACK IN MY DAY you could find information easily and more reliably via google (or search engine of choice), now that experience is shit but I still need to do it to double-check GPT, nice meme.
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew Normies are going to need to know how to use AI to help them to even have some level of utility. GPT is already a better source for teaching you just about any kind of skill over searching the web and digging through documentation and esoteric shit on internet forums.
@coolboymew@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@smug I mean they are going to have to do this anyways in order to trace the source of perfect deep fakes. Its not a matter of if but when. This is assuming they just don't have AI that is able to tell who the fuck you are just from your digital footprint, the way you type, the way you use the internet, etc.
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew Like it might use fake citations for a research paper sometimes. But if you want it to explain to you calculus, physics, chemistry, computer science, it knows basically everything.
@smug@Fuyutsuki@All_bonesJones@coolboymew It only makes things up in certain weird edge cases. 99.9999% of the time it's spot on. You'll find that out when you start talking to it about things you already know about.
1 - Google fucked their algorithm so it only shows you shit and ads. Thats why GPT seem better than it is
2 - GPT is a statistical engine, so if it can give you accurate code what you're doing is neither rare nor interesting (this is Jon Blow's take). it's just giving boilerplate