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1. awooo :blobfoxcheck: 🏴‍☠️ 🐾 ⎇ (awooo@pawb.fun)'s status on Monday, 02-Jan-2023 08:31:23 JST awooo :blobfoxcheck: 🏴‍☠️ 🐾 ⎇

   I don't know how to say it, but I'm tired of security being talked about in a way completely removed from discussions about its consequences, or only by its efficacy. Some technology is simply too powerful and open to abuse to be allowed to exist. The ability to remotely enforce the kind of software a client runs is just that (at least in a personal computing setting).

   • aurelia (aurelia@bmrf.institute)'s status on Monday, 02-Jan-2023 08:31:18 JST aurelia

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     @awooo I’m not so sure this is going to happen unless there’s a compliance reason for it. Banks aren’t even adopting current attestation devices as options (FIDO? On a bank website?) and love to have maybe SMS at best (or worst, depending on how you look at it)

   • awooo :blobfoxcheck: 🏴‍☠️ 🐾 ⎇ (awooo@pawb.fun)'s status on Monday, 02-Jan-2023 08:31:21 JST awooo :blobfoxcheck: 🏴‍☠️ 🐾 ⎇

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     • aurelia

     @aurelia The threat with TC is not necessarily being locked out of running different software on something, but the fact this software can be checked remotely. So a bank could deny you access if you run linux on your mac (or you run a computer without TC). In that way it creates coercion to use the "approved" software, a bit like the network effect does for social media.

     Phones are definitely a breeding ground for this disgusting crap and we need to fight that.

     Adrian Cochrane repeated this.
   • aurelia (aurelia@bmrf.institute)'s status on Monday, 02-Jan-2023 08:31:22 JST aurelia

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     @awooo imo the "personal computer" is not at threat of lockdown (people have been talking about this happening with DRM and Secure Boot for decades, and yet Asahi Linux exists on a platform only rivaled by the Xbox One in overengineered TC), it's just going to become a specialty device / partially extinct / possibly too expensive to own for everyone down the line
     
     mobile, idk, we kinda gave that one up from the start of the smartphone era
     Adrian Cochrane repeated this.