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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 01:48:15 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

   Bitchin, cubcrafters has new electric slats w/ electric power to maintain air flow.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 01:49:03 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2KTmeF6D4

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 01:49:41 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     This is a taste of what guys are doing, there are some home builder types who’ve been putting together some pretty cool electric EATO types of things that enable a burst of STOL

   • GabeLakmann (gabelakmann@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:11:27 JST GabeLakmann

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     Looks like the VSTOL competitions are going to have shorter and shorter lengths.
     
     Did you see the PBS special (I think it was PBS, I can check for you if you'd like) about electric planes? It was interesting.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:11:27 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @GabeLakmann I’m cut in on most of the BTS stuff as they publicize it, we get a lot of interest from people about it so I have to stay pretty up to date on electronic aircraft.

     So far, nothing REALLY useful has hit the market, the most realistically useful one I’ve seen is a homebuilt sonex kit, but even then you need the 220v charging infrastructure…at an airport. I KNOW it’s gonna happen soon though, we need pilots badly and avgas is $9/gal everywhere….and cessnas are ‘econo cruise’ at like 7gph

   • GabeLakmann (gabelakmann@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:15:12 JST GabeLakmann

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     Jeez, Last time I looked, ten years or so ago, AVGAS was maybe double what premium at the pumps was.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:15:12 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @GabeLakmann They’re trying to roll out unleaded now, and it’s another $2-4/gal from the few places that have it. And you have to pay a couple hundo for an STC sticker to legally use it, even if no modification is required.

     We rate, cheapest I can see, is about $160/hr in the most affordable states, others $180. If you’re lucky you can find a crappy 152 for about ten bucks less

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:16:23 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann He’s got some really cute little prop timing thingies where they fair back into slits along the wing, so you can go max power for climb out and enjoy normal flight afterwards.

     (he’s just really flaky, very much an old school passion project guy so a lot of the client stuff falls by the wayside, from what a fren says. Said it reminds him of viking motors in that respect)

   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:16:24 JST Doc

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     I remember going to Oshkosh 2 years ago and seeing the Electrolite that thing was cool asf
     
     https://www.aeromarine-lsa.com/electrolite/
   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:18:34 JST Doc

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     Yeah
     
     We’re (my dad, me, and my brother) are building a STOL rn based off the CH750 Super Duty
     
     Got a composite prop and running the UL520T
     Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:19:26 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann Let me know how it runs, I know UL is kinda making some overtures towards getting into the US market more. I’d like to see some competition for the Rotax stuff again. Market is boring now.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:26:53 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann It’s a long effort, but the Heintz birds are good. Probably the route I’d go, though I’d probably put a bit of work into jazzing up the interior if you spend a lot of time in there. They’re a little too utilitarian for some, a buddy always complains about the tack-welded bars they used to provide.

     As far as working on them, though, they’re very well thought out. Very spacious when you start getting into the guts, makes 100hrs a breeze. Kinda funny how the guy designed it after looking at a storch at a show and thinking he could take a bunch of those design cues

   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:26:54 JST Doc

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     I’d post pics but my dad has decided he wants all of the frame and fuel tanks and such to be fabricated offshore so we’ve only got the prop in boxes and the engine also in a box rn
   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:28:39 JST Doc

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     yeah
     
     Also here are pics
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:28:39 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann I need to see if I kept them, but one of the trade shows recently had some pics of a pretty cool khaki colored CH, very utilitarian and great for hiding if you’re in the western states. I love the idea of being able to hide wherever I land off-airport

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:31:52 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann haha, this is the exact thing. The second you mention pretty much any small aircraft or LSA he’ll start telling you about how crazy everyone is to just happily put up with the plainest contact surfaces for your controls. I’ve heard the same fevered rant at least 3 times by now, it’s always funny.

     I don’t even totally disagree, but it’s easy enough to fix. Just find a nice, comfy joystick and slap it on there. They only look bad because boomers build the kit as-is without understanding that it’s unpolished to allow customization.

     There’s a cool HUD system I saw the other day, has a nice control stick w/ AP, trim, radio on the hat, with controls for slaving HSI. Probably not worth the $10k retrofit but very cool to look at

   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:33:07 JST Doc

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     That looks nice
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:33:07 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann The part I’m curious on is whether or not it has a temp difference in the summer heat. I would bet it’s just a tad cooler than the dark colored ones guys always like. I never understand why guys go w/ glossy black aircraft, cleanliness nightmare and they always look dirty

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:50:57 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Royper @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann Most use that shitty foam from garden tools, it’s awful.

     He’s got a point, you’re paying $100,000 for something and you have worse touch points than a mountain bike

   • Royper (royper@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 08-Jun-2023 03:50:58 JST Royper

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @d0c40r0 @GabeLakmann Just throw a pair of these bad boys.