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1. Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 02:53:05 JST Rusty Crab
   tbh semi-open registrations and invites are really how fedi should work in general. We should not be actively trying to grow. Normies are cancer and ruin everything.
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   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 02:53:03 JST xianc78

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     • Some Purple Cat

     @PurpCat @RustyCrab Is there a way to allow user-generated invites like cock.li?

   • Some Purple Cat (purpcat@boks.moe)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 02:53:04 JST Some Purple Cat

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     @RustyCrab my multi user instance is literally going to be just people I know on telegram and vet first and all because I hate normies
   • Ash (ash@awoo.fyi)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 08:06:40 JST Ash

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     ActivePub just isn't really a good design for either of these goals.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 29-May-2023 03:29:20 JST xianc78

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     • GrungeQueef :verified:
     • Gabe

     @gabriel @GrungeQueef @RustyCrab Except if you give it a bad enough reputation, you will see people trying their best to kill it (maybe not completely) like what so many people tried to do with imageboards after the 8chan linked mass shootings. Now, imageboards are considered dead or dying at this point because nobody wants to risk hosting them anymore.

   • Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 03:29:21 JST Gabe

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     • GrungeQueef :verified:

     @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co You will not impose freedom on normies. They will put the shackles on you instead to share their misery. Harsh, but I see what you mean.
     @GrungeQueef@poa.st

   • GrungeQueef :verified: (grungequeef@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 03:29:22 JST GrungeQueef :verified:

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     @RustyCrab there was a time for growth. this is no longer the time for it.
   • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 03:29:22 JST Rusty Crab

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     • GrungeQueef :verified:
     @GrungeQueef my thing is that a lot of people want to grow fedi in order to break people away from big tech and big media. The reality is that if you import the third world you become the third world. Just like we're seeing with Mastodon, the normies came in and the corporations followed the normies. Now it's just a hellscape comparable to twitter. We're only protected by the rainbow curtain.
     
     You will not impose freedom on normies. They will put the shackles on you instead to share their misery.
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   • Some Purple Cat (purpcat@boks.moe)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 03:39:58 JST Some Purple Cat

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     • xianc78
     • GrungeQueef :verified:
     • Gabe
     @xianc78 @gabriel @GrungeQueef @RustyCrab It's also imageboards just aren't culturally in vogue anymore, like BBSes and IRC were after a while.
     
     Aside from imageboards being extremely vulnerable to a AHS style "posting CP to own the chuds" attack or the even easier "fedposting to own the chuds" attack, imageboard culture has been diluted hardcore thanks to everything from the infamous 4chan jannies to the fact that people don't give a shit that much to sacrifice everything to run a site like that.
     
     But most importantly IMO, I think the #1 thing killing imageboards is simply people online use different communities now in 2023, be it Discord/TG/Matrix groups or social media in some form. When you're trying to find friends and communities online, why post on a dying imageboard when you can go to Discord. Like it or not, you're dragged kicking and screaming because that's where the people are at and you're not. Before the 8chan thing, it was already in terminal decline.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 29-May-2023 03:48:01 JST xianc78

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     • Gabe
     • Some Purple Cat

     @PurpCat @RustyCrab @gabriel @GrungeQueef
     >But most importantly IMO, I think the #1 thing killing imageboards is simply people online use different communities now in 2023, be it Discord/TG/Matrix groups or social media in some form. When you're trying to find friends and communities online, why post on a dying imageboard when you can go to Discord. Like it or not, you're dragged kicking and screaming because that's where the people are at and you're not.

     I really hate this as a gamedev. I really don't want to use shit like Twitter or Discord, but I'm afraid I have to if I want a decently sized audience, especially given that the hobbyist gamedev community is now full of zoomers who have probably never heard of an Internet forum. Even the anons at /agdg/ realize that using sites like Twitter and Discord are necessary if you want a player-base.

     Literally, my only other option is to pay someone to do my social media for me.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 29-May-2023 04:07:15 JST xianc78

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     • Gabe
     • Some Purple Cat

     @PurpCat @RustyCrab @gabriel @GrungeQueef Just seeing what they tried to do to the Ion Fury devs a few years back makes me feel uneasy. But I'm afraid that the alphabet people is an Internet wide phenomenon at this point. Even if you decide to cater to the freetards and host your community on IRC, you still have to deal with the "programming sock" types who are sometimes even worse.

     This two way interaction between viewers and "content-creators" (I hate this term but I can't think of a better one) and the toxicity that it brings really makes me wish that RSS took of instead of social media, where these cancel-culture types are instead on some remote blogs on obscure corners of the Internet. Seriously, interacting with fans outside of fan-letters and fan-emails has brought only the worst in people.

   • Some Purple Cat (purpcat@boks.moe)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 04:07:16 JST Some Purple Cat

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     • xianc78
     • GrungeQueef :verified:
     • Gabe
     @xianc78 @RustyCrab @gabriel @GrungeQueef I don't like how Discord is full of alphabet people at every corner and I'm sure they will throw me under the bus if something happens, I don't need that shit IMO.
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   • miyako (miyako@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 04:27:51 JST miyako

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     • xianc78
     • GrungeQueef :verified:
     • Gabe
     • Some Purple Cat
     @PurpCat @RustyCrab @xianc78 @gabriel @GrungeQueef yes even when gamergate started in 2014 4chan was in terminal decline, they got another 4 years thanks to the 'culture war' shit but that's pretty much dead in the water now.
     
     People under 30 are addicted to mobile also. For everything.
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   • Ash (ash@awoo.fyi)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 10:54:28 JST Ash

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     • xianc78
     • GrungeQueef :verified:
     • Padorozu
     • Gabe
     • Some Purple Cat
     > There's no reason to have a discord
     
     Discords are good for appealing to your active participants. If your business depends on active participation (i.e. you're a streamer, content creator, multiplayer game developer), Discord is one of the best way to indirectly keep that activity high.
     
     It does have the side effect of being more hostile to more passive consumers of your content because unlike a proper forum or such, it locks content behind active participation in a community that is not searchable by common web search engines.
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   • Padorozu (dozu@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 10:54:29 JST Padorozu

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     • xianc78
     • GrungeQueef :verified:
     • Gabe
     • Some Purple Cat
     @xianc78 @gabriel @xianc78 @PurpCat @RustyCrab @gabriel @GrungeQueef The way I've always figured is to have a public facing twitter for strictly business, but to primarily advertise alternative outlets.
     
     There's no reason to have a discord, you're just babysitting the most mentally ill retards on the planet. Even big "content creators" like Sseth have realized it's 100% not worth the effort. Just have a public forum or instance or whatever for troubleshooting, you want that to be public and not behind the great retard app.
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