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1. 『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:32:01 JST 『VRISKA』

   My job at the anarchist commune is to stand at the gate and deny entry to people who think that making video essays is a valid job at the anarchist commune

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:32:01 JST xianc78

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     @vriska Yeah I get it. We are the real anarchists and you are a closeted tankie.

     :ancap:

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:36:07 JST xianc78

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     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska History says otherwise.

     http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/faq.html#part17

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:36:08 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     @vriska @xianc78
     An ancap walks into a bar. The bartender says: sorry we don't serve alcohol to minors. :laugh-about-it:
   • 『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:36:09 JST 『VRISKA』

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     • xianc78

     @xianc78 you're gay

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:37:13 JST xianc78

     in reply to

     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska
     >I'm going to bury my head in the sand and ignore what the other person is saying.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:37:14 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 @vriska
     I'm not clicking that :chad2:
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:38:57 JST xianc78

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     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska Gaelic Ireland, the Iceland Commonwealth, Bronze Age India, and The American Wild West are examples of historical societies that were basically anarcho-capitalist. Some have even lasted longer than the US.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:38:58 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 @vriska
     Write your own arguments :laugh-about-it:
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:50:09 JST xianc78

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     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska Capitalism as in the voluntary exchange of goods and services. These societies were stateless with some even having privatized courts and security (in the case of Ireland and Iceland). Bronze Age India had large cities with infrastructure funded by merchants. The towns in the American Old West were built on private infrastructure, including the security.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:50:10 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @vriska
     Those societies ended long before capitalism even formed
   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:50:11 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 @vriska
     >societies that were basically anarcho-capitalist
     
     Literally how?
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:50:30 JST xianc78

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     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska Not anymore. I joined this instance because I'm also a gamedev.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:50:31 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @vriska
     Also gameliberty is a pedophile instance
   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:50:32 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 @vriska
     :tnsr:
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:53:08 JST xianc78

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     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska And you think anarcho-communism (or any other form of left-anarchism) would be any different?

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 00:53:09 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @vriska @xianc78
     They lived under completely different material conditions than we do. No industry, much smaller population, no banking, no stock market, so on.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:05:50 JST xianc78

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     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska @nyx As I have already demonstrated, history proves otherwise.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:05:51 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @vriska
     Also you need a state to enforce private property
     cc @nyx
   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:05:52 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 @vriska
     >Capitalism as in the voluntary exchange of goods and services
     That's a bit reductive and doesn't really encompass other fundamentals it rests upon
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:12:57 JST xianc78

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     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska @nyx Officially they were still under government control, but given the distance between them and the government, it might as well be anarcho-capitalist.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:12:58 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     @xianc78 @vriska @nyx
     Some guy trading camels during the bronze age isn't the same as a modern transnational corporation. You're talking about wildly different material conditions here.
   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:12:58 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @nyx @vriska
     Also the American West was still under government control, what are you on about?
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:13:57 JST xianc78

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     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska @nyx Innovations like 3D printing might allow us to return to decentralized cottage industries.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:18:00 JST xianc78

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     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @dushman @vriska @nyx I do opposed that. Not every single colonial town was founded on stolen land. Native American tribes were spread out. The ones that weren't found on stolen land didn't violate the NAP.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:18:01 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     @nyx @vriska @xianc78
     As an ancap you should oppose that, no?
   • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving: (nyx@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:18:02 JST 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:

     in reply to

     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @dushman @xianc78 @vriska the so-called United States also only ever had a west to expand to by stealing land from indigenous peoples and then genociding them. but lolbertardians are totally not unprincipled ideologue kleptocrats. muh NAP!!
   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:18:02 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     @nyx @xianc78 @vriska
     True that also. What about the "NAP" of the natives whose lands got conquered?
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:19:13 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

     in reply to

     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     worse: got fucked by europeans (literally)
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:20:32 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @dushman @vriska @nyx I don't really know how the NAP is supposed to adjudicate the very different Injun and Western conceptions of property.
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:21:11 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

     in reply to

     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     literally what happened to the aztecs and the like (not a joke).
   • 『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:21:12 JST 『VRISKA』

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     • xianc78
     • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @PhenomX6 @dushman @xianc78 @nyx fate worse than death

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:21:12 JST Dushman

     in reply to

     • xianc78
     • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     @vriska @PhenomX6 @xianc78 @nyx
     They were done dirty
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:22:22 JST xianc78

     in reply to

     • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @PhenomX6 @dushman @vriska @nyx Because the Spanish didn't bring women with them on the ship. It's why most Mexicans are a mix of Mesoamerican and Spanish.

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:23:36 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

     in reply to

     • xianc78
     • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     dammit mexico isn't real
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:24:44 JST xianc78

     in reply to

     • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @PhenomX6 @dushman @vriska @nyx This is why terms like "Hispanic", "Latino", "Latina", and "Latinx" all need to die.

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:25:38 JST xianc78

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     • meso
     • Dushman

     @meso @dushman @vriska Last time we argued, you thought that libertarians were in favor of central banking. You have no place to judge.

   • meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:25:39 JST meso

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     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @dushman @xianc78 @vriska >Capitalism as in the voluntary exchange of goods and services
     he doesnt know
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:28:47 JST xianc78

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     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @ArdainianRight @dushman @vriska @nyx Don't settle on their villages, simple as that.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:30:25 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @dushman @vriska @nyx How does that work with nomads?
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:31:31 JST xianc78

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     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman

     @ArdainianRight @dushman @vriska @nyx Leaving a place is pretty much giving up the property.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:34:08 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • xianc78
     • 𝕹𝖞𝖝 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @dushman @vriska @nyx According to Injun understanding, a traditional hunting ground is still theirs to come back to, even if someone else can use it for a little bit. They didn't really "get" the implications of Western land ownership, which is where a lot of the conflict came from.
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:35:56 JST xianc78

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     • meso
     • Dushman

     @dushman @meso @vriska I'M NOT A PEDO!!! I've been on this instance long before the influx of pedophiles on here. I've joined this instance in particular because I'm also a gamedev and like to post my progress.

   • Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:35:57 JST Dushman

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     • xianc78
     • meso
     @meso @xianc78 @vriska
     >ancap
     >uses pedophile instance
     :marseythonk: checks out
   • meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 01:35:58 JST meso

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     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @dushman @vriska Central banking is the voluntary exchange of goods and services cry about it
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 23:08:48 JST xianc78

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     • Dushman
     • abhijith

     @abhijith @dushman @vriska Okay, maybe not all of it but the Harappan civilization that existed there certainly was. There didn't appear to be any capital and law was decentralized.

     http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/library/Harappa.html

   • abhijith (abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 23:08:55 JST abhijith

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     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @dushman @vriska Bronze Age India was not stateless. There were republics called Janpaths. The leaders of these republics formed councils called Parishad for decision making.
   • abhijith (abhijith@social.cowcornerfeeds.co.in)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 02:22:06 JST abhijith

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     • xianc78
     • Dushman
     @xianc78 @dushman @vriska Probably, but there are degrees to decentralization. There existed inequality in Harappan civilization to the extend that people were deprived from rights to basic health and safety. Is it possible to establish such systematic discrimination in an anarchist society? It must be this inequality that inspired the caste system of later cultures which is still followed today.
     xianc78 likes this.