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1. d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 08:56:34 JST d
   how can they be developing next generation air dominance when they're afraid to test if we even have this generation air dominance
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 08:56:32 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Paultron-3030
     • Innsmouth_Noticer

     @Innsmouth_Mayor @Paultron @deprecated_ii Not w/ their engines. On paper? Yeah, contender of sorts.

     In practice?

   • Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 08:56:33 JST Paultron-3030

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     @deprecated_ii i mean what else is there
     both russia and china are openly way behind anything the US has, and europe is deliberately hobbled from coming up with anything equal to the US
     are we afraid of embraer pumping out brazilian F-22 killers?
   • Innsmouth_Noticer (innsmouth_mayor@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 08:56:33 JST Innsmouth_Noticer

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     • Paultron-3030
     @Paultron @deprecated_ii The J-20 doesn't appear to be that far behind the US. The Chinese are capable of competing.
   • Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 09:04:24 JST Paultron-3030

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     • Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies
     @deprecated_ii @AlbinoMutant high explosives are cheap to make and guide these days. everyone is front loading into the first layers of the survivability onion
     
     same reason why the most armor any naval ship has these days is kevlar wrap to stop shrapnel hitting machinery- you get hit and ur fukt, no matter how much money and design compromises you put into protection
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 09:04:24 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Paultron-3030
     • Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies

     @Paultron @deprecated_ii @AlbinoMutant Imagine going back in time to tell the critics that “All or Nothing” really was the way forward

   • Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies (albinomutant@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 09:04:25 JST Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies

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     • Paultron-3030
     @Paultron @deprecated_ii the f22 killers will be cheap drones.
   • d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 09:04:25 JST d

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     • Paultron-3030
     • Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies
     @AlbinoMutant @Paultron retvrn to flying fortresses that can soak up hits instead of shattering the moment a tiny bit of shrapnel compromises the skin of the plane
   • Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 09:24:00 JST Paultron-3030

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     • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
     • Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies
     @deprecated_ii @WashedOutGundamPilot @AlbinoMutant some A-10s did get back with damage but it was still did much worse than F-15s and F-16s in overall casualty rate vs the only developed enemy it's ever really fought
     Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this.
   • d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 09:24:01 JST d

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     • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
     • Paultron-3030
     • Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Paultron @AlbinoMutant I don't put weight on what they *are doing* because the defense industry has been ratholing on the same shit for decades. Doesn't mean that's the best idea or the only viable option.
     
     The A-10 can soak a lot of damage without being destroyed.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 09:24:34 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Paultron-3030
     • Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies

     @Paultron @deprecated_ii @AlbinoMutant This is what I hate about being anon, because I literally just heard a pretty cool story about that exact thing. Dude’s fighter was pretty shot up and he brought it home