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1. Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 02:57:06 JST Christi Junior
   E;R's latest Whorra video and his comments about Tenzin reminds me of how modern Western writing, with its girl power Mary Sues, completely screws over traditional Mentor characters. Obviously a Fucking White Male has nothing to really teach a Strong Independent Woman, so instead of taking up what *should* be his role, the would-be-mentor character instead ends up portrayed as an out-of-touch loser, or a bitter, broken failure of a man, who of course has to be saved by the Mary Sue.
   
   Contrast this with Shulk and Rex in Xenoblade 3 Future Redeemed, who actually ARE allowed to become the leaders and mentors you'd reasonably expect them to be. Not perfect or all-knowing, but still genuine great and good men possessing lots of special knowledge, who the younger characters learn a lot from.
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   • Hollyjollytailspike (monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 02:57:05 JST Hollyjollytailspike

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     @ChristiJunior Women aren't supposed to have Wise Old Man mentors because they're not supposed to need one. Women don't need trial and tribulation and struggle to BECOME a woman like a man does.
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   • kamehamic (kamehamic@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 02:58:35 JST kamehamic

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     @ChristiJunior It's another side of the destroying/subverting the concept of leaving a good legacy to those who come after, like the very modern work ethic of "fleeing forward" if there are problems, "those who come after will figure it out".
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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 02:58:35 JST Christi Junior

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     @kamehamic You could say that there's good drama in old heroes losing everything, yet managing to rise again. The problem is that there's a big difference between old heroes facing major hardship, and outright character derailment. Shulk and Rex from my example have temporarily lost almost everyone they held dear, but still keep moving forward, finding their way through the darkness and inspiring other characters in the process.
     
     Someone like TLJ Luke Skywalker is HIMSELF responsible for all the bad things happening to him, starting with how the guy who saw the good in fucking Darth Vader and successfully attempted to turn him away from the Dark Side, tries to MURDER HIS OWN NEPHEW IN HIS SLEEP over mere suspicions and fears.
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   • Christmas Coon (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:43:21 JST Christmas Coon

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     @monsterislandcolonizer @ChristiJunior Hmmm makes me wonder: what even is a good female character? Should they have any arc at all besides accepting their role and being beneficial to a man, or acting as their motivation? A question that needs to be answered to make non-Judeofaggot media.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:43:21 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @MeBigbrain @monsterislandcolonizer @ChristiJunior I’m still quite partial to Ripley in aliens, because her sole source of strength is motherhood, and her little ‘badass’ moment is done in the service of ponying up and rescuing her foster child only when all the warriors are incapacitated.

     Even then she’s not super good at combat, she just gets the queen alien into a hostage situation. It’s a mom versus mom battle of wills. One mother who lost everything she’d ever had, trying to grasp at one last chance to make up for her dereliction, and one driven by the bestial impulse to spread among the world

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   • CrustyB (crustyb@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:45:37 JST CrustyB

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @MeBigbrain @monsterislandcolonizer @ChristiJunior And then the whole movie was negated in "Alien 3" because Newt was dead in the first scene.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:48:31 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @MeBigbrain @monsterislandcolonizer @ChristiJunior In all the stories passed down in our family, these are always the kinds of ones that come to mind when I hear “strong woman”. That’s why I hate it so much, it cheapens true feminine strength. Women don’t go out and do the man’s work for ego, or status, or the thrill of acting out a role of the kind of man she wants to plow her.

     She answers the call when fate forces her hand, when everything looks lost, when she taps into an inner well of strength to do things she’d never be able to even attempt until there’s no other choice but to do or die.

     The jew system today thinks the highest exhibition of feminine strength is a girl looking her her dad and saying “no, fuk u“

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   • Hollyjollytailspike (monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:48:36 JST Hollyjollytailspike

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @MeBigbrain @ChristiJunior Ripley acts like a real person too though. There aren't any GURLPOWER moments in Alien or Aliens.
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   • マタナ (matana@gameliberty.club)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:53:12 JST マタナ

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     @LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior Whorra completely fucked up a character who already was a subversion of traditional mentor character trope :vodkaloli:

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   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:53:13 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     enough said...

   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 03:53:36 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     I don't think making the mentor sexy counts as a subversion though.

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @MeBigbrain @monsterislandcolonizer @ChristiJunior This is true "feminine strength", when the situation demands that they go far beyond even what most men can in defense of their home, family and country
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   • PunishedLenny3 (punishedlenny3@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:07:33 JST PunishedLenny3

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     @MeBigbrain @ChristiJunior @monsterislandcolonizer
     Japanese entertainment in general has good female characters, because they actually want their characters to be likeable, thus ironically, anime ends up being feminist:
     https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/anime-is-feminist.46/#post-148
   • PunishedLenny3 (punishedlenny3@varishangout.net)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:07:34 JST PunishedLenny3

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     @Curvin @ChristiJunior @MeBigbrain @monsterislandcolonizer
     inability to read past a title is niggerish behavior
   • Unusual Strange Professional Killstreak Festivized Genuine Self-made Haunted Collector's Vintage Curvin (curvin@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:07:35 JST Unusual Strange Professional Killstreak Festivized Genuine Self-made Haunted Collector's Vintage Curvin

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     @PunishedLenny3 @MeBigbrain @ChristiJunior @monsterislandcolonizer >anime
     >feminist
     shut up
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:31:42 JST Christi Junior

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     @djsumdog E;R is a JewTuber who makes fairly edgy pop culture analysis videos/takedowns. He has ripped into the likes of Life is Strange, Netflix Death Note and Steven Universe. PewDiePie once shouted him out, which caused the nerd media to freak out and label him a Nazi, because E;R made a Nazi joke. His power level is pretty high for a JewTuber tho, I'd compare him to someone like Metokur, given segments like this:
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   • djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:31:43 JST djsumdog

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     Who's E;R? I generally liked that Avatar series, but I never did think about that aspect. Even though it's past the time of Aang, it seems like the series shows his own faults in the legacy left to his family members. I never thought about how Tenzin is seen has a hardass, not someone who has learned wisdom.
     
     Film Theory has a good video about how the Avatars themselves are bad for the world they inhabit and all the people in them.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:35:14 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @ChristiJunior @kamehamic Note that Rex in Future Redeemed does still get overemotional and overattached at times, but he's better able to handle it than when he was a kid. This is what's called character growth. He's still the same guy, but at a different stage of his life and maturity.
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:42:49 JST Christi Junior

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     @ArdainianRight @kamehamic This quality of characterization is also 100% consistent in Xenoblade 3, ALL the returning characters have been done justice in this way. What blows my mind is just how *rare* this is in modern media, even stories that don't actively shit on their returning characters will almost always subject them to Flanderization, i.e. overemphasizing specific character traits and have this come to define them. As I've already mentioned, it would have been SO easy for Monolith Soft to make Rex the emotional meathead to Shulk's analytical and rational Dunban 2.0, but instead they always fully understand just WHO the character is and what defines him, not just what memes the fanbase remember the best (though they give plenty of nods to that too of course).
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:48:44 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @ChristiJunior @kamehamic One thing I like about Melia is how her arc in Future Connected carries over in a subtle way in 3 when her and Eunie are talking about how they both have wings. While Melia did face bigotry in her life for being a half-blooded High Entia, she rejects racial masochism and chooses to uphold the good of her people and their traditions, and this little conversation, this little connection, highlights the value of race and ancestry in a subtle way. Melia and Eunie are the same in their High Entia origins, and even in the deracinated hellscape of Aionios, this bond is still special.
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 04:56:41 JST Christi Junior

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     @ArdainianRight @kamehamic Note that in the world run Moebius:
     
     - People are completely blind to racial differences (all that matters is Keves VS Agnus)
     - Gender roles are non-existent, the two sexes get treated exactly the same, shower together, aren't even really aware that they're different etc.
     - Religion and religious concepts are completely absent, besides arguably the worship of the two Queens.
     - And of course, no babies.
     - Equality of outcomes is explicitly invoked to defend this state of affairs.
     
     And this is 100% a Dystopian world.
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 05:04:29 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @ChristiJunior @kamehamic Some people say Moebius is conservative because they embody stagnation, and the game does shit on the Conservative faction of The City, but that faction is more a representation of Boomercon cowards who ignore the problem more than anything else. The truth is that the desire for stagnation cuts across political ideologies, and the societies in recent history that have most embodied stagnation have generally been Stalinist dictatorships. Z outright says "There are no losers in my world" which is very much a left-wing goal, not a right-wing one.
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 07:47:40 JST Christi Junior

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     @MeBigbrain @monsterislandcolonizer Pyra and Mythra being complex, powerful and gorgeous female characters who eventually settle into their Man's harem and bless him with children comes pretty close, lol. It was Based enough for the English VA to disavow the canonical ending, lol.
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   • smugumin (smugumin@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 07:49:07 JST smugumin

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     @ChristiJunior you just reminded me of ma-REY sue lecturing han solo about the millennium falcon lol
     feminist writing is completely ass backwards but what do you expect from people who think women should be men
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   • Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 08:06:50 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     @RacistReimu @WashedOutGundamPilot @MeBigbrain @monsterislandcolonizer @ChristiJunior Idk about the other two, but Joan of Ark wasn’t a warrior or general. She was an icon of inspiration for the French people.
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