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1. 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 03:13:57 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
   "why the fuck are you searching my posts on the internet I DID NOT GIVE YOU CONSENT TO SEARCH MY PUBLIC POSTS REEEE"
   • Flaky (flaky@awoo.fyi)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 03:22:45 JST Flaky

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     I don’t get his point. If he didn’t want his posts being scraped by Universodon, there’s the option to make the posts unlisted (shouldn’t appear on their federated timelines), followers only or even direct.

     I get he’s distressed but the dude needs to chill.

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 03:22:45 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Flaky
     Here's a good post IMO that sums up the problem with his point even from his side of the fedi:
     https://poly.cybre.city/notice/AVf9LG9gtKom8SG5mC
     
     "I think Mastodon's approach of pretending the Fediverse is private and secure is the real problem here - it gave users the false impression that their posts are private, while they are not. It pretends to have privacy settings and tools, but they are barely effective. The truth is, Mastodon is misleading its users. ActivityPub is not private. It never been."
     
     I wouldn't be shocked if GS had working search back in the day too and it's clear that working search is something you expect from a social media network; hence why Pleroma/Misskey has it. It's just Pleroma restricts abuse of searches by forcing logins as a setting.
     
     Also the hashtag spam attacks are proof it's a false sense of security because trolls will search hashtags and flood them or target people on them.
   • Flaky (flaky@awoo.fyi)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 04:40:53 JST Flaky

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     • shitposter mongoliensis

     And even then, attempts at privacy sometimes just break. Remember Twitter Circles and how it broke during the era of Musky Twitter? Thing basically made circle-restricted tweets public, or at least unlisted. If people were using this as a more private option, then they were essentially screwed.

     https://mashable.com/article/twitter-circles-bug-leak-privacy

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   • shitposter mongoliensis (gd5426@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 04:40:53 JST shitposter mongoliensis

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     • Flaky
     @Flaky @PhenomX6 Tbh, the whole idea of trying to make a public social media platform "privacy focused" always seemed a bit odd to me. Might as well just use a dedicated instant messaging app if you only want a select few seeing what you post (I am aware some people refuse to use anything but those platforms, but they're kinda the exception here).
   • shitposter mongoliensis (gd5426@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 04:40:54 JST shitposter mongoliensis

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     • Flaky
     @PhenomX6 @Flaky Honestly, it seems like he's got a problem with the web itself since it's something inherent to how it works. Unless you're using something specifically built for privacy/messaging, anything you post to a site is generally going to be out there for anyone else with a computer to see.
     
     Intentionally breaking your software to prevent it isn't gonna solve anything.
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   • Flaky (flaky@awoo.fyi)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 04:41:06 JST Flaky

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     “Mastodon is the outlier and its making it look like its not, which is misleading people.”

     Honestly that’s really dangerous for those looking for a more privacy-centric option. Mastodon should follow what the others are doing to an extent, including with stuff like this. They should know better being the branded face of the fediverse.

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:05:15 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Flaky
     • shitposter mongoliensis
     That's literally what Telegram and those apps are for; for people who want privacy and control over messages and who have genuine reasons to (like their government wanting them dead and thinking it's funny, talking to friends overseas without fears of censorship, etc.).
     
     Fucking Discord of all things is more private than social media.
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:16:33 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Flaky
     • shitposter mongoliensis
     His idea is more so, he wants the internet to play by his rules and if he yells/abuses the right people he can get his way. When you look at how activism goes on in certain circles and how many paranoid people we've known behave online, it makes a lot of sense why people like this would assume such. They also know too much about the search function because well look at the post he quoted, they want to be able to cancel others for posting feral porn but not get canceled for jacking off to it.
     
     Mastodon's issue is that by marketing to the Tumblr crowd, Eugen marketed it to a bunch of people who are on the level of gangstalking victims. So many of the things we don't use seriously like unlisted posts they see as serious privacy tools when in reality it is privacy through obscurity; if you don't know the flaw exists and you yell at people who run fediverse search engines you can make the issue go away.
     
     Which is why him learning about other fedi instance software stacks having functional search buck broke him so hard; he doesn't know that what works in the Mastodon sphere (harassing anyone who doesn't comply) falls flat in the other fedi software spheres. He's also 100% convinced that everyone else online is a Nazi due to leftover 2017 propaganda being fed through an IV.
   • shitposter mongoliensis (gd5426@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-May-2023 17:52:12 JST shitposter mongoliensis

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     • Flaky
     @PhenomX6 @Flaky Entertaining these type's obsession with controlling what people say and see was a mistake.