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@ai good morning!
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Sui @renai
jokes on you, I only play solved games (I like to win) :blobsunglasses:
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@ai @Sui @renai In this thread, I *want* to get into something like Stratego (hidden information) but the one experience I had with playing with someone *really* soured that particular game for me - I had to step aside during play for a moment, and my opponent looked at my side of the board.
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@Sui @ai @renai Checkers is solved, and so I do not play it.
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@renai @ai Chess is good to sort of show off, but I could never get myself to enjoy it. I've found that I'm good against people who "don't play chess" and that I always lose against people who regularly do it, and this comes from about a day's worth of studying chess strategy.
It strikes me that chess may be, deeply, a game about "how much you've studied chess." Is this wrong somehow, or have I sort of nailed it?
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That sums up my experience with it too. I'd have a flawless winning streak against others that didn't obsessively study it, and get my ass kicked in the tournaments. I preferred checkers tbh.
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@renai Nice!
I kind of like it, but I'm too perfectionistic to enjoy it. It's a long story:
As a little kid, when my stepdad first came into my life, we bonded over Doctor Who, Monty Python, Ancient Aliens, old-school trance music, and chess. He'd take my mom on a date and then we would all meet at a coffee shop where he would teach me chess. Espresso beans, swedish fish candies, and the French Defense are all linked in my memories of that time. I was good enough at the basics and the theory that I even went to a chess summer camp where I was the youngest student. I tagged along with my stepdad to some local chess tournaments. But I never got that good because I didn't deal well with competition. If I made a tiny mistake, I'd get mad at myself and throw the game away. My stepdad would analyze my games with me and say how I was winning at first, but then things went to shit in the end.
I have a better attitude about things these days. My perfectionism has been burned out of me by other things in life. Someday I'll maybe give chess another try, but idk when I'll have time for it because I think I'd get really into it.
Oh, when I was little, my stepdad bought this cool chess software for me so I could practice against bots and do tactics puzzles. Here's a pic of my favorite "set" in that software:
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@ai those sound like fun times.
>we would all meet at a coffee shop where he would teach me chess.
coffee shops are a classic place for chess, that must have been comfy.
>But I never got that good because I didn't deal well with competition. If I made a tiny mistake, I'd get mad at myself and throw the game away.
getting tilted is something i also struggle with. "i can't believe i lost to this doofus!" is very common even still
>Someday I'll maybe give chess another try, but idk when I'll have time for it because I think I'd get really into it.
it's so fun isn't it? it's mainly pattern recognition so i think you'd be good at it.
that board looks fun but i'd never be able to concentrate, just look at the animations. i play chess on and off but i'm doing it more often recently
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@ai i like it when everyone's around ^.^
i'm feeling good, just beat a chess bot that had annoyed me. do you like chess?
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@renai Gm post tailored to me. This is like getting a personalized song from your favorite band.
Good evening to you! How’s it going?
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@ai @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @hidden the thing that makes this easy is that the moves that are less likely are invariably worse. calculating generally means looking at forced moves, but when it doesn't you eventually learn to see likely plans for your opponent. now if he doesn't execute any of those plans he's more likely to get stomped. of course if the move you didn't see was very good and he plays it you'll be in trouble, but that's why you calculate
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@renai @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @ai Eventually it stops being pattern recognition and becomes PROJECTING INFINITE PATTERNS INTO THE FUTURE 👁️
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@hidden @renai @ceo_of_monoeye_dating
This is what I struggled the most with, due to my perfectionism. My stepdad tried to teach me to "calculate," meaning to extrapolate like "I do this, you do this, etc." a bunch of steps. I had a mental block because I thought "how can I know that you'll do the things that make sense? What if you do something totally random? Do I have to calculate that too?"
A while ago, I told you about how I couldn't stand live-action shows or non-electronic music because "I couldn't stand the idea that the behavior of others was not precisely determined" and you said it was a psycho way to say a common thing and then I posted Patrick Bateman. Well I think this is part of the same thing.
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @ai it's pattern recognition, and the more you play the better you get at recognizing those patterns. one bad move nullifies 40 excellent ones, so i'd estimate that if you just learn to not blunder it's possible to get to about 2000 rating without learning much strategy at all. but yeah study is a big part of this, looking at your own games and seeing where you messed up and how you can avoid that same mistake next time. people have very different levels in it naturally though, before learning anything more.
tl;dr yes
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Sui @renai
The only winning move is not to play (against an asshole).
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@renai @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @hidden
To reply to your earlier post, I naturally find "chess problems" more fun than actual chess, because of that element of ambiguity. Also because a full chess game takes a long time (and I am a snail, so blitz chess feels really rushed).
Sometime I want to git gud at a competitive game, though, just to see what it's like. I feel like it's a weak spot I have which could actually be fixed by playing more video games. Idk if it'll be chess or something like Age of Empires or Starcraft or w/e.
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