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1. :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance: (oceanredux@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:20 JST :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance:
   Wtf is dead internet theory?
   • :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance: (oceanredux@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:16 JST :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance:

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     • Shaun Hale
     @PunishedD @shaunh so essentially the internet used to be human driven or some shit and now bots have taken over? where did all the humans who used 2 be on the internet go? I wonder how many accounts of dead people there are on the internet lol 🤔
   • PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:16 JST PunishedD

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     • Shaun Hale
     @OceanRedux @shaunh The humans either consolidated onto a single platform (like Facebook), became passive consumers instead of posters, or they post but it's hidden/shadowbanned so you mostly see bot content.
     
     It's more observable in places like 4chan, which is known to be completely compromised, and Twitter, where thousands of identical posts pop up in an instant. Obscure places like the fediverse are more real, but once the Mastodon side got popular, a few bots started creeping in.
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   • :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance: (oceanredux@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:17 JST :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance:

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     • Shaun Hale
     @shaunh How likely is this to actually be real....how the fuck is that even possible considering how connected everyone is lol
   • PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:17 JST PunishedD

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     • Shaun Hale
     @OceanRedux @shaunh You only really know a tiny number of people. You might recognize a lot more, but not well enough to say if they're bots.
     
     Dead Internet Theory is more about the large platforms with easy access, than small ones that take some effort for individuals to join and maintain. Because even the small, real platforms tend to die out, suggesting the large ones with bot content and conversations are the bulk of the Internet.
   • Shaun Hale (shaunh@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:18 JST Shaun Hale

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     @OceanRedux The most coherent versions of the theory posit a sharp drop off in organic human-generated content for various reasons at a certain point in recent history which large corporate interests are hiding with bot farms to make the internet look less like a ghost town than it really is, also for their own various reasons.
   • :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance: (oceanredux@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:19 JST :duckdance: 「Under Divine Flag」:duckdance:

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     • Shaun Hale
     @shaunh Every video on it is like 20 minutes long and Im not reading the wiki page. So, like, the entire internet is fake or bots? Is that a metaphor or something
   • Shaun Hale (shaunh@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:20 JST Shaun Hale

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     @OceanRedux Dead Internet Theory: None of you people are real. Everything is fake and gay and bot generated.
   • Publius (publius2@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:23:56 JST Publius

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     • Shaun Hale
     @OceanRedux @PunishedD @shaunh Bot networks are written to amplify either corporate advertising schlock or judeo-libtard political narratives (because that's who has the money to create massive botnets) so real people end up disengaging with the internet entirely or accepting sequestering into marginal internet ghettos (like the Fediverse).
     
     There used to be parsing tools that could look at social media activity and reliably tell you whether a poster was a human or a bot. I worked with such a tool for Twitter activity. But, after 2020 the AI generated content from bots began rapidly improving and posts by actual libtard or product enjoyers became more and more programmatic and it is now extremely difficult to tell them apart.
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   • Wrongthink (wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:30:07 JST Wrongthink

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     @shaunh @OceanRedux @Publius2 @PunishedD

     There’s more too it than that because, while I don’t have any specific links handy, I’ve seen web sites full of non-advertising, non-political content which I am certain were not human generated.

     Let’s consider that to be accepted as human online should entail having agency over one’s own mind. Some, perhaps many, do not. It is possible for flesh and blood human beings to effectively be “bots” online.

   • Shaun Hale (shaunh@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 23:30:08 JST Shaun Hale

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     • PunishedD
     @Publius2 @OceanRedux @PunishedD >Bot networks are written to amplify either corporate advertising schlock or judeo-libtard political narratives
     
     There's more too it than that because, while I don't have any specific links handy, I've seen web sites full of non-advertising, non-political content which I am certain were not human generated.
     
     The last time I remember this I was researching public campgrounds and hiking trails in Alaska and came across some sites purporting to be blogs written by real people whose prose landed squarely in the uncanny valley.