@Yukari_Kajiwara @ai @gav @hidden @MercurialBlack @rdr

> animals, though they are alive and can do some complex stuff, don't have it

can we prove that tho :think_nyan: seems odd that qualia would just spring into existence out of nowhere all of a sudden. so surely primates should be at least marginally conscious, whatever that word means? and I guess mammals would be expected to be ...