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1. Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 07:36:31 JST Snail Enthusiast
   I am going to post Botan's feet whenever I feel like it until you develop some kind of emotional response to her
   
   I will not be posting any meditation instructions, as I have realized that without proper view and intimate instructions from a qualified teacher of an authentic lineage, at best it's a subpar stress relief method and at worst actively harmful to those unequipped to even begin understanding the experiences in a productive way
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   • Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 07:36:30 JST Snail Enthusiast

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     @rlier23 I could post fresher Botan feet, but unfortunately they all pale in comparison to the classic. Casino will never again reach the artistic heights of Botan feet
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   • salty_apollyon (rlier23@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 07:36:31 JST salty_apollyon

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     @snailenthusiast i have seen this image so many times it no longer affects me
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 08:21:07 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @rlier23 @snailenthusiast Well you’ll just have to stress test that then

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 08:26:05 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @rlier23 @snailenthusiast
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 08:28:23 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @snailenthusiast “lol ur feet pics don’t affect me I’m impervious”

     Okay. LEVEL II !!!! RELEASE!!!!!!!!

     BWWWWWOOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 08:30:14 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @rlier23 @snailenthusiast You WILL be….

   • salty_apollyon (rlier23@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 08:30:15 JST salty_apollyon

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @snailenthusiast not a feet fag but ill give you points for kanata
   • Man of Dog (kuon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 08:36:02 JST Man of Dog

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @rlier23 @snailenthusiast Are you sure YOU aren't? I don't really think you have a right to complain that your gf suspects you having one, anymore.
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     @kuon @rlier23 @snailenthusiast She did that thing again the other day, my mental wards can’t hold it back forever!

   • Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 09:44:42 JST Snail Enthusiast

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     The second part isn't entirely a joke btw, people have had some very bad mental breakdowns when doing extended meditation, though the worst seems to come via Theravadan methods. Of course, many of these people were already mentally fragile, and I'm sure the girl in this article going off her meds didn't help matters at all, but the dangers of engaging in these practices without preparation are real
     
     https://harpers.org/archive/2021/04/lost-in-thought-psychological-risks-of-meditation/
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   • toast (toast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:01:46 JST toast

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     @snailenthusiast Interesting article, I was aware of a few cases of occurrences like this but I didn't realize how common it is.
     
     I was experimenting with Tantric meditation years ago and I had some overwhelming experiences. They were positive thankfully, but I still wondered if I was going crazy. I didn't really expect anything would actually happen and I doubted the experience. Eventually though, I seemed to forget how to reach that state of consciousness and gave up on the practice. The experience reminded me of being on drugs though. I think certain techniques can affect your brain chemistry in a profound way.
   • toast (toast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:14:16 JST toast

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     @snailenthusiast It was the Vijyana Bhairava Tantra. The translator's commentary itself said it was dangerous and I did it anyway.
     
     The feeling does still come to me in prayer sometimes, I just don't try to make it happen anymore. I don't think it's anything *I* need to be worried about.
   • Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:14:17 JST Snail Enthusiast

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     @toast >I was experimenting with tantric meditation
     I don't know if you had a legit teacher, but I can't stress enough how that's an outright dangerous thing to do without instruction from a living human, books and videos online can't correct misconceptions or give teachings based on what's appropriate for you in particular
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   • Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:22:04 JST Snail Enthusiast

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     @toast Huh, I wasn't even aware Kashmiri Shaivite tantras were still actively practiced desu, kind of thought that tradition died out/was absorbed into other schools
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   • toast (toast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:25:53 JST toast

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     @snailenthusiast Some of the modern groups practicing it seem a bit sussy to me. Which is something else that caused me anxiety. I was worried I was going to join a cult.
   • Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:27:17 JST Snail Enthusiast

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     @MK2boogaloo @toast It's not really accurate to say Kashmiri Shaivism "evolved" from Buddhism per se, there was a lot of interaction with yogis from that sect and practitioners of Buddhist tantra, there was a great deal of mutual influence and appropriation. Sakya Pandita outright said in terms of practice, the only real difference between Vajrayana and that breed of Shaivism was their philosophical understanding
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   • Kerokeronim (mk2boogaloo@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:27:20 JST Kerokeronim

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     @toast @snailenthusiast learning about Tantra Bhairava was a mistake. I don't know how that thing evolved from Buddhism since the concept on how to reach the enlightenment is so alien to it.
   • toast (toast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:29:31 JST toast

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     @MK2boogaloo @snailenthusiast I don't know a ton about Indian history, but in the centuries the VBT was written in Hinduism was evolving and adapting to compete with Buddhism.
     
     Not sure what you mean by alien - the philosophy behind it is quite similar to Buddhism. There is a sloka that says "there is neither bondage nor liberation for me" but I always interpreted that as being like a Zen koan, intended to show you that liberation is not something far away but something that happens here and now (akaliko as Buddhists call it, I think).
   • Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:34:38 JST Snail Enthusiast

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     @toast @MK2boogaloo For the record, the views of Shaivism and Buddhism are totally incommensurate: the Shaivites are monists and while Buddhists say mindstreams are individual. The distinctions are a bit difficult to parse for people who haven't studied this, but I assure you it's important
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   • toast (toast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:36:50 JST toast

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     @snailenthusiast @MK2boogaloo Similar to, but not the same. The VBT speaks of the ultimate reality as being shoonya or void, which is also a word used to describe anatta in Buddhism.
   • Snail Enthusiast (snailenthusiast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:43:23 JST Snail Enthusiast

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     @toast @MK2boogaloo Yes, but their understanding of shunyata still has all phenomena grounded in a real, eternal, transcendental Shiva; their view doesn't go any further than yogacara
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   • toast (toast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 10:47:52 JST toast

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     @snailenthusiast @MK2boogaloo I wouldn't argue against that, but I remember hearing about a mural depicting Tantric Shaivists and Buddhists meditating together in the same ashram. My impression from reading the book and its commentary is that it's very much focused on practice and experience rather than dogma. One of the modern practitioners I was in contact with seemed to hold Kashmir Shaivism and Buddhism in equal esteem and taught both.
   • ec670@pawoo.net's status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 11:17:06 JST ec670

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     @MK2boogaloo @snailenthusiast @toast

     Forbidden fruit

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   • toast (toast@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 19:48:52 JST toast

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     @MK2boogaloo @snailenthusiast You're thinking of the Aghori ascetics. As far as I'm aware the Kaulas never practiced anything so extreme. The Mahanirvana Tantra does give instructions for a ritual called Pancatattva (five elements) where the worshiper and his wife partake of five 'forbidden' things: meat, fish, parched grain, alcohol, and sexual intercourse. But this is to be done between husband and wife.
   • Kerokeronim (mk2boogaloo@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Apr-2023 19:48:55 JST Kerokeronim

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     @snailenthusiast @toast there's also difference in rituals no? I heard that the Bhairavas are doing orgies, cannibalism and other sick stuff to get rid of their bad karma.
   • Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Monday, 01-May-2023 07:21:06 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @rlier23 @snailenthusiast I love this one
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