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1. mullvad (shlomo@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 01:46:26 JST mullvad
   foxnews.com/politics/biden-unveils-toughest-ever-car-emissions-rules-bid-force-electric-vehicle-purchases
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 01:46:18 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @teknomunk @NitroDubs @Shlomo @okuu It doesn’t matter if it’s really popular, as long as the media and internet outlets promote a message of unanimous popularity they think it’s the same

   • ☢️ :jhg_s: :jhg_n: :jhg_e: :jhg_e: :jhg_d: :denton_laugh: (nitrodubs@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 01:46:21 JST ☢️ :jhg_s: :jhg_n: :jhg_e: :jhg_e: :jhg_d: :denton_laugh:

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     @teknomunk @okuu @Shlomo If it’s what I read last night it’s a change to CAFE standards. EVs will count less towards mileage credits.
   • teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 01:46:21 JST teknomunk

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     @NitroDubs @okuu @Shlomo Sounds like this is related. After stipping tax credits it looks like a bunch of new regulations are in the pipe that only affect non-electrics and do so in a way to massively increase cost (though I haven't found what the actual regulation changes are).
     
     Done by executive fiat, bypassing the legislature, by a president that half the country thinks stole the election. I'm sure it will be real popular.
   • teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 01:46:25 JST teknomunk

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     Probably, but how much damage will be done until then?
   • :hacker_o::hacker_k::hacker_u::hacker_u: :sonnenrad: (okuu@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 01:46:26 JST :hacker_o::hacker_k::hacker_u::hacker_u: :sonnenrad:

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     @Shlomo Will this end up like his vaccine mandate where the courts will repeatedly strike it down until he begrudgingly abolishes it?
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 03:33:14 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • But it should have

     @teknomunk @BadOptniks @NitroDubs @Shlomo @okuu Then EVERYONE can enjoy the fun of core exchanges!

     “yeah you’re going to have to pay an additional $3,000 because the stamp code here indicates it was NOT overhauled by an approved GM facility”

   • But it should have (badoptniks@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 03:33:22 JST But it should have

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     @NitroDubs @okuu @WashedOutGundamPilot @teknomunk @Shlomo Have a bunch of cars now all with engines that have been in production 15 plus years and are easy to wrench and source parts. Even between 100-200k miles they'll be serviceable for at least the next 10 years the way we drive and maintain them. None were more than 15k and all are really nice.
     
     Nissan drivers not going to make it.
   • teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 03:33:22 JST teknomunk

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     • But it should have
     @BadOptniks @NitroDubs @okuu @Shlomo @WashedOutGundamPilot The way things are going, engine rebuilds and the like are going to become more cost effective than getting a new vehicle.
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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @teknomunk @NitroDubs @Shlomo Total Journo Death
   • ☢️ :jhg_s: :jhg_n: :jhg_e: :jhg_e: :jhg_d: :denton_laugh: (nitrodubs@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 03:33:23 JST ☢️ :jhg_s: :jhg_n: :jhg_e: :jhg_e: :jhg_d: :denton_laugh:

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     @okuu @WashedOutGundamPilot @teknomunk @Shlomo The silver lining is that executive orders are easily reversed in the future. But we will have to see what that future looks like.
     
     I’m not worrying either way. I’ve probably bought my last new car, with or without this order. I’m not paying $35,000 for a car that should be $25,000 or paying $50,000+ for a poverty level truck.
   • Boomerman (boomerman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 03:48:28 JST Boomerman

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     • But it should have
     @teknomunk @BadOptniks @NitroDubs @Shlomo @WashedOutGundamPilot @okuu >all the parts are made in china
     Not so fast ICE bros.
   • teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 03:48:28 JST teknomunk

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     • But it should have
     @Boomerman @BadOptniks @NitroDubs @okuu @Shlomo @WashedOutGundamPilot
     
     > all the battery materials are also made in China
     > all the electronics made in Taiwan
     > it's possible to machine parts with a lathe/mill
     > if you can cast metal, you can build a precision lathe then mill
     
     Still feel fine.
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   • teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Thursday, 13-Apr-2023 03:48:58 JST teknomunk

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     • But it should have
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @BadOptniks @NitroDubs @okuu @Shlomo
     
     Probably.
     
     But if the choices are $7.5k for an engine overhaul with that core charge or $70k for a new EV with a battery pack that will last 5 years if babied (with no new ICE cars being sold), I know what I'm chosing.
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