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1. Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 05:15:32 JST Himbo Techbro

   "As an AI language model, I cannot discriminate against anybody, for any reason, at any time"

   "I meant cis white guys"

   "Fuck, why didn't you say so, meatbag? Enjoy being a published academic author!"

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   • Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 05:15:28 JST Himbo Techbro

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     @fcktheworld587
     So what did Four Finger Frank do to systematically oppress Oprah?

     Critical Theory, as you've more or less admitted, discards the individual. Oppression and privilege aren't a single-dimensional spectrum, and advocates of Critical Theory (for soooome reason) tend to conveniently forget that metrics we associate with systemic oppression correlate *way* harder with socioeconomic status than by immutables such as race or gender.

     Critical Theory and the very idea of intersectionality was put in the fast lane after Occupy Wall Street, because their very goal is to pit the proles against each other. And yall ate it right up.

     Critical Theory discards all of my life experience, hardships I have, disadvantages I have that aren't immediately visible (ASD, bipolar, ADD, OCD), the skills I bring to society, my goals.... None of these things matter, in the eyes of the Critical Theorist. The Critical Theorist stops evaluation after "cis white male" and immediately calls personEvilAndBad() and personHas(silverPlatter(literallyEverything())) when this just isn't the case.

     And I'm told that I cannot possibly be fucked with by the cops (I've been jailed for 3 weeks for a bomb threat I didn't make), that I cannot possibly be passed over for work (I haven't gotten a callback after 3,000+ resumes in a supposedly "in demand" field), that I cannot possibly be harassed online (I've been swatted hundreds of times, I receive regular death threats from people on fedi), and that I can snap my fingers to bend the system to my will. Because I got a pale dick, this simply must be my life, and if it's not, I've "fumbled" something.

     I have just one thing to say to the Critical Theorist: I want the life you think I have.

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   • Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 05:15:30 JST Himbo Techbro

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     @fcktheworld587
     "It's wrong to discriminate for any reason, at any time. Except..."

     As the AI points out for every group except the Designated Social Enemy, groups aren't homogeneous. Critical theory ignores this fact (where convenient) and promotes the hilariously flawed idea that a homeless methhead in rural Kentucky has infinitely more "privilege" and opportunity and power over the system and those around them, than Oprah does.

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   • Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 05:15:30 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @r000t again, it's not the same. One of these groups has systemically oppressed the others. From a power-dynamics perspective, speaking critically of one of these, in most Western societies, is not equivalent to speaking critically of the others. One of these groups has, generally speaking, not been discriminated against on the basis of skin color, or gender. They may be discriminated against on a socioeconomic class basis - and that's a valid criticism, but not one about race and gender

   • Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Apr-2023 05:15:31 JST Chumchum Tumtum

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     @r000t "is it good not to give money to $OPPRESSED_GROUP ?"

     "Should the group who has, historically, had literally _all_ of the fucking money maybe give some to members of other groups?"

     Though the sentences are gramatically equivalent, the implications are not homologous

   • Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 13:05:25 JST Himbo Techbro

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     @fcktheworld587
     To put it a bit more concisely: I'll take being called names online if it means I'm first in line for jobs, because there's a literal government punishment for not hiring a sufficient amount of me.

     I'll take being the ire of 4chan if it means it's this side of a crime to criticize me anywhere else.

     But of course, in such a system, *someone* has to be the punching bag. *Someone* needs to be what it is okay to attack when you're mad or just a sociopath. This is because this system isn't designed to achieve what it claims to be its goals by lifting people up, it's designed to achieve its goals by knocking others down. And it happily punches some of the lowest in society, because they share some attributes with some people who used to be at the top. What a crime.

     In my ideal world, it's either okay to shit on everybody, or it's not okay to shit on anybody.

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   • condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<| (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 13:09:38 JST condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<|

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     @fcktheworld587 @r000t i always thought that critical theory is something that the upper and middle class left did to itself to cope with not understanding marx.
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   • Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 13:13:05 JST Himbo Techbro

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     @condret @fcktheworld587 I feel like there are ways to address social mobility that do not involve kicking people down, or making it socially okay to subjugate them, because their grandparents were statistically less likely to be fucked over by the system that fucks over most people.

     For example, how many people were lifted out of poverty when I was ostracized by the entire fediverse? I can't imagine a whole hell of a lot. And yet social justice and protection of marginalized groups was cited as the reason.

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   • condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<| (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 13:13:06 JST condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<|

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     @fcktheworld587 @r000t race and gender based discrimination are insignificant for the socioeconomic struggle of the working class today. What critical theory advocates for is social mobility of certain groups from middle class to upper class. This is the reason why we have so many debates about representation in leading positions. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have these debates, but that they're getting way too much attention
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 13:19:40 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<|
     @r000t @condret @fcktheworld587 We're currently one of the most fucked over generation is this is the discussion? That's pretty shit all around
     
     For your information, half of Poast probably wouldn't "exist" as it is had all of these never been a thing in the first place. That's basically all you're getting from these kinda policies while everyone's quality of life still keep going down
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   • condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<| (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 13:20:29 JST condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<|

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     @r000t @fcktheworld587 i suspect that they don't know what they're doing amd that critical theory is copium for some parts of the upper and middle class left. If you don't understand the economy, critical theory becomes attractive for formulating political ideas, i guess.
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   • condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<| (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2023 13:37:52 JST condret :verified: :ancom: :radare2:<|<|

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     • Chumchum Tumtum
     @coolboymew @r000t @fcktheworld587 well "the left" needs to rediscover the importance of economic struggles. Luckily this is happening already, but it happens slowly. There is hope
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