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1. nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:08:43 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:
   web browsers fucking suck I'd rather not use them, now that Firefox is going all in on that advertiser pleaser thing I'm just gonna go to chromium. I don't fucking care anymore
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:10:46 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     yeah I'm aware stuff like librewolf exists but Firefox was never that good at complying with web standards anyway and Google is a billion dollar company that has time to dedicate a team of autists to that thing so may as well go for the next best thing. Before you ask no I do not use adblocking extensions.
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   • Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:49:21 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     I'm looking forward to checking out orion on Linux ("coming soon"), currently only available on apple devices

     https://kagi.com/orion/

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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:50:25 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     @nicholas Is it open sores?
   • Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:56:10 JST Phantasm

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     @nyanide @nicholas
     >https://kagi.com/orion/faq.html#oss
     Not really. At least not _yet_.
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   • Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:56:33 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     "Not yet" (also know as "no")

     https://help.kagi.com/orion/faq/faq.html#oss

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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:57:12 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • Phantasm
     • Nicholas Conrad
     @phnt @nicholas Deal breaker. I know Chromium has some proprietary elements but I am unsure if distros are even allowed to ship those components.
   • VIPPER (vipper@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:59:19 JST VIPPER

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     @nyanide Brave is a decent Chromium fork, and probably the only one you can reliably block ads on considering manifest v2 was deprecated in Chromium.
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 08:59:34 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • VIPPER
     @VIPPER is... is it open sores
   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:01:40 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • Phantasm
     • Nicholas Conrad
     • Nice Mitch Conner
     @mitchconner @nicholas @phnt Mostly trying to stick with official distro repos. I don't have enough money for a good build server yet
   • Nice Mitch Conner (mitchconner@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:01:41 JST Nice Mitch Conner

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     • Phantasm
     • Nicholas Conrad
     https://librewolf.net/
   • Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:01:50 JST Phantasm

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     @nyanide @nicholas I think Chromium is fully free as Qt uses it for the webview. Google then tacks on the proprietary components for login integrations, syncing, and mostly more precise tracking. Base Chromium really is a forked version of WebKit from years ago. To my understading, the ungoogled-chromium projects only removes references to Google documentation, store integration, the less precise tracking and likely some other bits.
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   • Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:02:39 JST Phantasm

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     • Nice Mitch Conner
     @mitchconner @nicholas @nyanide Literally does not matter. When Firefox dies, Librewolf and all the other Firefox forks go down with it. A team of 15 people simply cannot maintain a fully featured browser these days.
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   • VIPPER (vipper@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:02:46 JST VIPPER

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     @nyanide It uses the Mozilla Public License Version 2.0, so basically everything other than the company branding is FOSS, as is the case with Firefox too
     
     source: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/brave/brave-browser/refs/heads/master/LICENSE
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:03:22 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • VIPPER
     @VIPPER eh well having used brave before it isn't so bad, the tor integration fucking sucks but other than that it might be worth checking out on windows machines
   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:08:56 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • Phantasm
     • Nicholas Conrad
     • Nice Mitch Conner
     @mitchconner @nicholas @phnt why not just use ungoogled chromium instead of a no name if we're going with forks?
   • Nice Mitch Conner (mitchconner@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:08:57 JST Nice Mitch Conner

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     • Phantasm
     • Nicholas Conrad
     https://iridiumbrowser.de/
   • Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:11:34 JST Phantasm

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     • VIPPER
     @nyanide @VIPPER Try out base Chromium and if you get annoyed by the lack of basic features like autoplay blocking and uBO's future being up in the air, then try Brave. Brave on the other hand has a lot of unnecessary features like crypto integration and an AI assistant "Leo", but at least most of these "features" can be disabled either in the settings or with brave://flags.
     
     One has almost no features and the other has too much.
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:12:22 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • VIPPER
     @phnt @VIPPER I have never cared for both of those things. I have never wanted auto play blocking and I stopped using ublock many moons ago. Base chromium and seamonkey sound good right about now.
   • Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:12:38 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     • Phantasm

     Deal breaker

     I get it, it's a user-funded browser as in "if you don't want to be the product, then you have to pay for the software" which I appreciate. I hope they open-source soon (and spin up a windows version).

     My current browser is Brave.

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   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:12:55 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • VIPPER
     @phnt @nyanide @VIPPER I'm just going to keep using firefox and w3m...
   • COOL_FREE_RINGTONES (s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:13:19 JST COOL_FREE_RINGTONES

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     • Phantasm
     • VIPPER
     @nyanide @phnt @VIPPER I'm using vivaldi right now and will expect one of you to verbally abuse me if that's wrong
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 09:14:17 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • Phantasm
     • VIPPER
     @s8n @phnt @VIPPER Apparently it has good features and is funded by a company which kind of gives a shit about its users. Like fuck dude is it so much to ask for to have a company care about user feedback entirely? Anyways, it's proprietary so not for me but I can understand your choice.
   • Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 22:52:21 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     Fyi I just heard about:

     https://ladybird.org/

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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 22:52:39 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     @nicholas I know about ladybird but they plan to have an alpha out in like 2 years.
   • þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 22:58:18 JST þernia

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     @nyanide may not be after they sell it. Who knows
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 22:59:57 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • þernia
     @pernia At that point I will either give up and just focus on my real life full time instead of dedicating all of my time to the internet or I will switch to surf and webkit2
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   • Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:02:16 JST Phantasm

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     @nyanide @pernia
     >surf
     I might actually try that. I've been happy with other suckless software but never tried surf.
     
     Another option would be the python one :mokouVomit:
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   • þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:25:16 JST þernia

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     • Phantasm
     @phnt @nyanide not the greatest webkit browser, will crash on certain sites. Im too normie too really be able to use it but i gave it a good try and it was somewhat ok. I honestly prefer luakit
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   • þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:25:41 JST þernia

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     @nyanide >Before you ask no I do not use adblocking extensions.
     Kird. What.
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:26:14 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • þernia
     @pernia I stopped using ublock after I became too tired to keep going through the process of verifying the sources I was getting ublock from every time I installed firefox
   • þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:27:37 JST þernia

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     @nyanide kird just use the addons store.... what do you even need to check
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   • Rock DJ :catcrunk: :gigachad: :lmde: (dj@ak.parcero.casa)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:29:17 JST Rock DJ :catcrunk: :gigachad: :lmde:

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     • þernia
     @pernia @nyanide
     Please watch my ads goy
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:30:25 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • þernia
     @pernia I check Wikipedia to see if the links I visit that contain add on store links are official sources, I even go as far as to check article revision diffs if the ublock article was edited recently. This becomes tedious after you distro hop a billion times.
   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:31:08 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • þernia
     @pernia This is more out of paranoia. Obviously.
   • tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:32:19 JST tsoifan1997

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     • þernia
     @nyanide @pernia
     That's a level of schizophrenia not even I have, also just stay on one distro.
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   • þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:36:39 JST þernia

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     @nyanide retarded paranoia. Just check their github for the link. Or be like everyone else and make sure the addon says "author: gorhill". This is nonsense kird
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   • nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:39:00 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:

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     • þernia
     @pernia A lot of my paranoia is misplaced, it'd make more sense for me to run a system completely built from source than it would to audit Wikipedia articles in the dumbest way possible.
   • þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 23:46:15 JST þernia

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     @nyanide yah
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