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SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:03:50 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)
Lutheranism should not be boring.
Seriously, the vast majority of Lutherans today celebrate figures in history who were far more dynamic in their thinking and pursuits than their pastors are. It's irritating just thinking about how many congregations have the same level of excitement and dynamism as a stick of butter.
Here's a handy heuristic to see if your Lutheran congregation is a dry, soulless formalist husk of wheat destined to be blown away by the winds of angels snoring in response to your infinite dullness:
What are you guys doing for Fat Tuesday?-
SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:03:48 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)
The most underrated teaching of Luther is that the Christian is a human being, and ought not rebel against being a human being. We are not only permitted to eat normal food and get married and hold civic office and pursue things we are passionate about, we are *encouraged* to do so by the God who loves us. In other words, Christianity does not require the abolition of the human, but a reformation of it.
This went against the quasi-buddhist rebellion the Church had been staging against God's vision for humanity for nearly a thousand years, where the height of righteousness was conceived of as starving to death in a cave and repeating prayers until your neural pathways calcified.
Lutherans so often forget this that entire denominational institutions ape Rome ad nauseam. It is as though they heard Luther teach about the Biblical conception of man and responded with "So you're saying we should be statues, right? Because we can *totally* do that, Doc." -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:03:48 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@SuperLutheran
I honestly feel like so much of both High Church Protestantism and Orthodoxy just wants Catholicism without the papacy, and a lot of them would outright convert to Catholicism if a new pope were elected who agreed with their politics. For all the problems with the Catholic Church, a lot of its contemporary issues will be fixed just by Boomers dying off, and all alternative branches of Christianity are in worse shape. -
SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:03:49 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)
Not every sermon has to be exciting. Liturgy should stay orderly. But if your minister's idea of a wild night is opening up a can of Dr. Pepper and reading Pieper again, then your congregational vitality will take that shape (and it'll probably SUCK) -
SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:03:50 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)
If your answer is "nothing, hadn't even thought about it," OK you should probably change that.
If your answer is "it's Shrove Tuesday and it's actually horrible for you to suggest that we do anything out of the ordinary," congratulations you are a mummified, BORING Lutheran. -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:12:52 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@Leyonhjelm @SuperLutheran
There definitely are those. -
Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:12:53 JST Leyonhjelm
@ArdainianRight
They wouldn’t convert because the word Catholic is branded into their heads as evil. Even if you tell them what Catholicism actually is they’ll believe you are trying to trick them with lies.
A lot of Protestant sects also care deeply about their views on baptism, which is a sticking point, but they aren’t high church.
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Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:18:57 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@SuperLutheran
Based on the numbers I've seen, outright heretical strains of shitlibbery in the clergy are almost exclusively a Boomer phenomenon, and the Overton window for the current generation of clergy ranges from milquetoast centrism to hardcore conservatism. The gay millennial wing doesn't feel the need to try to work through the Church. Of course human nature ensures that the state of the Church will inevitably be a mess until Christ's return. -
SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 08:18:58 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)
@ArdainianRight The boomers dying off means the Millennials taking over, and as ascendant as my right wing contemporaries in my generation feel right now there are still tons of gay millennials seeking power in Rome. I think the state of the Church will best be described as "a mess" until Christ returns.
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