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1. Arkana (arkana@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2025 12:09:57 JST Arkana
   American Comics used to be really popular and cool. First the "Comics Code Authority" stifled that and strangled all the life out of it. By the time of the 80's when people stopped caring about it the only things left were Superhero stories whose authors had no ownership of the comics they wrote and dragged on forever.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2025 12:09:55 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @wgiwf @Arkana The FBI has a very active hollywood arm that integrates with all their media creation, all so people are never exposed to narratives that put them in a bad light. If you're lucky enough to slip a corrupt FBI agent through the cracks and get it in your script, they'll make sure you solve the problem by showing that 99 good guy FBI agents save the day and write that "infrequent" wrong

     Military is similar but not so stringent, they have enough hippies in their midst to blunt a pure antiwar stance. Still have to play nice if you want to rent equipment, but you get more room creatively

   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2025 12:09:56 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @Arkana This is why comics in the US have for a long time been relegated to children. This reads like the directives of a propaganda department.
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2025 12:09:56 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @Arkana "Policemen, judges, government officials, and respected institutions shall never be presented in such a way as to create disrespect for established authority."
     
     This really says it all. This isn't art it's no different than party approved propaganda from the USSR.
   • Witch Hunter Siegfired (witch_hunter_siegfired@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2025 23:25:04 JST Witch Hunter Siegfired

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     @wgiwf @Arkana Aye, this is my biggest issue with the whole MUH 50'S thing, and these sorts still did the same shit later on, like spazzing about D&D for example being Satanic or Harry Potter or the like. I need to find that Goebbels quote about this exact problem lol.
   • Arkana (arkana@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2025 23:25:05 JST Arkana

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     @wgiwf We just have to be thankful that the video games industry learned from that and the ESRB did basically nothing besides label games age ratings
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2025 23:25:05 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @Arkana Yeah. Even then the way they view things is out of whack. But it is worlds better than what was imposed upon movies and comics in the 50s.
     
     There should be some regulation of publicly consumed media content: pro-faggot and gender ideology should be banned, etc. But the 1950s ideal of a puritanical system worshiping media is disgusting. According to their standards many classical works of art are obscene because of simple nudity, violence, etc.
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 11:04:44 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     • Lichelord Godfrey
     @lichelordgodfrey @Arkana There's a difference between subversiveness and censoring a corrupt cop character because you have to protect the reputation of the authorities at all cost.
     
     >I don't think the Comics Code Authority stifled comics, do you actually want kids exposed to sexuality and degeneracy at a young age?
     
     Not really. But we need to look at the idea that children are utterly incapable of having moral faculties and must be handheld at all times. Prior to the normalization of "children's media" kids read the same things adults did to a large extent. The Three Musketeers is not some squeaky clean book, for example.
   • Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 11:04:44 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @wgiwf @Arkana It's also not jewish bullshit.

     CCA and Hays Code existed in response to jewish bullshit.

   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 11:04:44 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     • Lichelord Godfrey
     @lichelordgodfrey @Arkana Both were wrong. They censored content they deemed offensive: nudity, blood, violence, all of which is present within classical works of art, yet ignored subversive ideals which the works promoted entirely. The Hays Code demanded that married couples cannot be shown sleeping in the same bad, nonsensical reactionisim to the slight issue of film degeneracy.
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   • Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 11:04:45 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @wgiwf @Arkana every regime (non-pejorative usage of the word "regime") does this.

     every single one.

     they all put in these rules and uphold taboos.

     back then, were all the cops near-unanimously trained by israelis and anti-White pro-non-White training to give blacks as many second chances in an encounter as possible while treating Whites as if they're a rabid nigger high on fent?

     no. and judges were not unanimously hated either.

     I don't think the Comics Code Authority stifled comics, do you actually want kids exposed to sexuality and degeneracy at a young age?

     If you want a better comic industry, you should direct your ire at the jewish-owned publishers. "Batman" was a kike copy of "The Shadow", ffs.

     niggas really underestimate how bad the jewish-led cultural revolution of america throughout the 20th century really was.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 11:06:01 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @wgiwf @Arkana @lichelordgodfrey
     There are better ways to handle things than imposing overly draconian censorship rules.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 03:22:12 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @wgiwf @Arkana @branman65 @lichelordgodfrey
     That's not even Victorian. A lot of the so-called neurotic prudishness of the Victorian era is pure projection from Jews like Freud, when in fact Jewish culture has insane taboos and regulations around sex, to the point where the Talmud says a man can't hold his penis while urinating, for fear of it causing masturbation.
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 03:22:13 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @branman65 @lichelordgodfrey @Arkana What is the rationale behind not showing pregnant women on tv? Is it the stork nonsense? That's retarded. Children can be told that women give birth to children, I was. You don't need to go into details at a young age but knowledge about the physical reality of human existence isn't harmful to a child.
     
     Victorian weirdness really did a number on society for a long time.
   • Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 03:22:14 JST Branman65🍟

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     • Lichelord Godfrey
     @wgiwf @lichelordgodfrey @Arkana on tv it was considered taboo to show a pregnant woman or a toilet
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 06:21:26 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @ArdainianRight @Arkana @branman65 @lichelordgodfrey Jewish subversion is a given in this discussion. But there was a mindset that came out of that period to clean everything up but not actually become more moral people (as labor abuses of the period would show) that existed and still exists to some extent, disregarding kike influence.
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   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 11:03:01 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     • 獣耳会社ｗａｎ
     @wan @Arkana Interesting. Tbh the comic book scene prior to the dominance of manga is a foreign thing to me, on multiple levels, and the only real experience of comics before the current zietgiest is getting some Star Wars comics at the local store as a child; I never cared for superhero stuff even at that age.
     This is no dig at Bones, I've never read it, but the fact that the alternative western comic market is largely captured by Scholastic doesn't sit well with me at all. I don't think a large company dominant in the industry focused on children's media, which is an issue unto itself, can really support the artistic freedom that we praise in manga.
     There is a lot of work to still be done here to even approximate the artistic and mature creative quality that you can can find in even the smallest manga periodical. Also the possibility of a de-facto "Comics Code" forming in such an environment is worrying.
   • 獣耳会社ｗａｎ (wan@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 11:03:01 JST 獣耳会社ｗａｎ

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     @wgiwf @Arkana America also has no doujinshi scene (the sad, warped imitation that's had the term slapped over it as marketing doesn't count) in all its messy, porny, self-indulgent, IP-holders-looking-the-other-way glory. The guideposts that temper and blood a prospective mangaka who's publishing doujinshi (and almost all of them did, right back into the '80s, and still do) are the exact same things that would've/still do get an American doing the same thing turned into a smoking legal crater.
   • Pawlicker (pawlicker@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 11:03:01 JST Pawlicker

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     • 獣耳会社ｗａｎ
     @wan @Arkana @wgiwf don't forget the fact that the nsfw artists in the West do it for the money and less because of the waifuism (some end up in more mainstream careers in the animation sphere but so many think patreon is the limit)
   • 獣耳会社ｗａｎ (wan@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 11:03:02 JST 獣耳会社ｗａｎ

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     @wgiwf @Arkana I thought this video did a pretty good job of touching on some of the issues that plague "American comic books" (meaning capeslop) and what alternatives look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSBUX6GPsA
   • 獣耳会社ｗａｎ (wan@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 11:03:03 JST 獣耳会社ｗａｎ

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     @wgiwf @Arkana Comic books were also made using "over the wall" production lines that systematically kept any one person or small group of people from becoming too valuable or distinct.
     
     It's not now generally known, but newspaper comic artists – who generally owned their own IP, did their own work start to finish, and set their own direction – were considered to be leagues above those corralled in the comic book bullpens.
     
     The Comics Code Authority is much-decried now – it did have a terrible effect – but it's not the only reason we don't have an American equivalent to manga today.
   • Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 21-Feb-2025 11:03:03 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @wan @Arkana Add in the nonsensical distribution system, in comparison to monthly periodicals with multiple series running each issue in the case of manga, and you got yourself an industry incapable of adaption.