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1. Radical_EgoCom (radical_egocom@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 06-Apr-2023 08:35:47 JST Radical_EgoCom

   And even then they don't care.

   • djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Apr-2023 08:35:47 JST djsumdog

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     How can a suicide be blamed on anyone but oneself?
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   • djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Apr-2023 09:28:52 JST djsumdog

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     • Shebang! :blobpeektrans:
     • chanon

     But that’s not really what anyone here is talking about.

     Then what are we talking about? What other possible perspective is there in a society where speech is protected?

     That said, blaming intolerance as the sole factor also seems like a gross oversimplification

     It’s not an oversimplification, it’s outright wrong and misleading. Trans people have the highest suicide rates of any supposed oppressed group: higher than US black slaves, higher that Jews in WW2 Germany, higher than Japanese in US internment camps in WW2 [1/2/3]… they are granted more freedoms and recognition and opportunities in western nations than ever before. They are praised by every major corporation and media outlet, while complaining about an entirely non-existent genocide .. a genocide that can only exist in the world where everyone is responsible for their high rates of suicide; which we are not.

     People are free to live their lives however they want. However, blaming one of the most accepting societies (that society being the Western world of the US/UK/EU/AU/NZ/etc.) that allows biological men to compete and decimate professional women’s sports, and whose media defends transgenderism and gender ideology at every possible opportunity with zero push-back, for being the cause of their genocidal suicide, is nothing more than a misleading word game that seeks to distort reality for political and ideological gains and control.

   • chanon (chanon@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Apr-2023 09:28:53 JST chanon

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     • djsumdog
     • Shebang! :blobpeektrans:

     @djsumdog
     From an angle of pure culpability, of course an individual is solely responsible for the decision to take their own life. But that's not really what anyone here is talking about.

     That said, blaming intolerance as the sole factor also seems like a gross oversimplification, which probably isn't the most helpful for finding ways to help people who might be at risk, even if it's not a bad place to start.
     @shebang @Radical_EgoCom

   • Shebang! :blobpeektrans: (shebang@freespeech.group)'s status on Thursday, 06-Apr-2023 09:28:54 JST Shebang! :blobpeektrans:

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     • djsumdog
     @djsumdog @Radical_EgoCom Seriously DJ?
     
     What gets people who are young and vulnerable is being harassed, rejected and vilified. Most people are social animals, and being bombarded with hatred really screws with people.
     
     Some people are tough and independent who are comfortable with a background radiation of hostility, but most people are not. Especially people who get rejected by their families and former friends. A lot of people can't handle intense social rejection, and sociopaths are very much keen to press in on people who are already in a bad state.
     
     A gross statement, my dude.
   • djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Apr-2023 09:28:54 JST djsumdog

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     • Shebang! :blobpeektrans:
     I ask again, how can one person's decision to end his or her life be blamed on anyone else?
     
     You have libertarian leanings. Where does this go? Should a man be charged for manslaughter if his wife kills herself, rather than just leave him? Is "battered woman syndrome" really a justification for murder? Is the Nashville shooter justified in her actions of murdering three children?
     
     You cannot control the world or what they say or do. But you can exert agency over your own mind. Ultimately everyone needs to be responsible for their own actions, and stop blaming everyone else.