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1. bonkmaykr (bonkmaykr@canithesis.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 01:18:25 JST bonkmaykr
   You don't get to say "people change over the course of 10 years" when the entire basis of one of his accusations against RMS is an awkward social interaction that happened half a century ago, the evidence for which was entirely hearsay anyway. Meanwhile DeVault is literally a closet child molester, and unlike with RMS, wehave the evidence to prove it because his opsec was shit and he just put all of it out there for us to see under the same name. It only took an hour after Kiwifarms picked up on the story to uncover everything: political motives, the lies, the skeletons in the closet and all.
   
   You can argue all you want that cmpwn didn't write The Stallman Report or the screenshotted posts, but the evidence, both hard and circumstantial, all point to him being at least one of the authors if not the sole author, of everything he's accused of putting online. The signing of the report was an opsec failure, not something done out of honesty. He tried to cover it up and still denies being the author.
   
   All of the arguments presented within The Stallman Report are hypocritical at best and utterly fucking laughable at worst, the entire report consisted of "richard said this thing" taken out of context or intentionally misquoted to mean something else. The one thing that Richard actually said that was pretty fucked up, even Drew himself admits in the report he later walked back on, even before he got in trouble with the FSF the first time over it.
   
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   • Alex (xinayder@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 06:47:38 JST Alex

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     @bonkmaykr so this is indeed a campaign by kiwifarms?

     until it is picked up by a reputable source, not some far-right internet warriors, I'm calling bullshit on it.

     also, I'm not denying that Drew wrote The Stallman Report. it is indeed strange that he tries to cover it and hasn't spoken about it so far.

     just to make sure you get my point: I'm not questioning the Stallman Report. I'm questioning the DeVault report.

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   • bonkmaykr (bonkmaykr@canithesis.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 06:47:38 JST bonkmaykr

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     • Alex
     @xinayder@fosstodon.org 1. It is not a "campaign by kiwifarms" and 2. Kiwifarms are not "far right internet warriors". They are internet archivists that document things on the internet that are embarrassing, that is their entire purpose, no shit of course they helped uncover something. Just as they did with other kidfuckers like Snakething before him.
     
     If any involvement in an investigation from someone you don't like instantly invalidates the proof given, then you are a humongous moron.
     
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   • bonkmaykr (bonkmaykr@canithesis.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 06:47:47 JST bonkmaykr

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     • Alex
     @xinayder@fosstodon.org This is what happens when you learn everything about the internet from retarded Youtubers.
     
     4chan isn't a far right website. Nice try bringing up 8chan and then switching it out for 4chan to try to conflate the two. 4chan has an abundance of far right users in certain boards because it allows anonymous posting where most websites do not. This doesn't make it a "far right website". A far right website is a website created specifically for them.
     
     Wikipedia has a "no original research" rule that ensures Kiwifarms, Chris Chan, and Keffals will never get an honest article because only the opinions of journalists matter. Journalists who have to please investors with PC language and fit into their subculture, reporting on things even if it means lying for attention or appealing to certain people.
     
     Keffals started the majority of it.
     
     The best way to prove it would be to read a bunch of threads, Animal Control is a good place to start, and see what the motives for writing them often are. Behind all of the adult language and pejoratives there is an underlying purpose to it all.
     
     While you're there, take note that Kiwifarms explicitly bans harassment of forum topic subjects, the "far-right" image is because of journalists misconstruing their law-of-the-land rules. If it is legal in the US then you can say it there but everything you say will be criticized.
     
     There are also plenty of leftist or centrist users, which you don't hear about because the site promotes good opsec.
     
     The best way to know about something is to dig into it yourself. Citing the summary paragraph on Wikipedia is not research. You will learn nothing by doing that.
     
     Hilariously, you would learn more by just reading Kiwifarms threads because they require members to back up all information, when possible, using tools hosted by third parties which they cannot tamper with. If Kiwifarms collected the info on sircmpwn then that almost certainly makes it genuine on that basis alone. The political compass of the members who posted it is completely irrelevant.
     
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   • Alex (xinayder@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 06:47:48 JST Alex

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     @bonkmaykr I'm giving you the burden of proof to show me that Kiwifarms is not a far-right website.

     this is the entry on wikipedia:
     > Kiwi Farms, is a web forum that facilitates the discussion and harassment of online figures and communities. Their targets are often subject to organized group trolling and stalking, as well as doxxing and real-life harassment.

     and it was created by a former 8chan admin.

     are you also going to say 4chan is not a far-right website?

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   • Alex (xinayder@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:02:20 JST Alex

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     @bonkmaykr besides, if they weren't really a far-right website dedicated to doxxing and harassment and even promoting violence against people, I guess they wouldn't have had issues with Cloudflare being their CDN.

     my issue is not that Kiwifarms involves someone I don't like. it's like believing whatever the fuck comes out of 4chan as true, even though they have a pretty huge history of being dedicated to trolling and spreading disinformation and misinformation.