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In more "Gaming is Freaking Dead" news, Mojang decided to reinvent the wheel and ruin player movement.
youtube.com/watch?v=ddTwWzo2_m0
Poo heads and Jews on Micro$hit's board are laughing to the bank.
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@SuperSnekFriend :akko_tired: This is what the troons and such working on Minecraft now are paid for. Not to plan out decent content, not to properly work on large content. It's all about making minor changes to fuck with people who have gotten used to the game over the years.
This is a reminder, the actual "content" updates that have happened after Microsoft obtaining the game have been pitiful, split releases with as much content and effort as that early access trash you see on Steam where the devs are using default unity store assets. Why yes, I do think it's worthwhile to wait 6 months after the update was actually promised so I can have 1 new fish, 3 decorative blocks, and a useless item that is only there to bloat exploration further. I will be glad to wait another 8 months until you can add the next batch of equally as meaningful content for this singular update that was promised as being the "big expansion of existing features." :cirno_angry: Only time I ever play Minecraft anymore is checking out massive modpacks (which do have their own problems due to most mod authors equating complexity with quality) with a small group of friends, it's just not worth it otherwise.
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@Iffine @SuperSnekFriend reminder that copper took like year to become used for something, and they JUST NOW made a block family for it with this latest update.
And if you complain about it the fanboys call you spoiled for expecting larger and more content rich updates.
You know what made me play this game again? Mods. None of the newest updates interested me all that much. So much so that I'm willing to be five or six updates behind to maintain those mods I'm using.
The conspiracy theorist in me says that the company is mad that they can't get rid of java and so they do stuff like this to fuck java players like me over.
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@Kyonko802 @Iffine
Remember when people were hoping that a Microsoft purchase meant that we got a C++ version of Minecraft that had better modability and greater performance, instead of what we got which was a shitty, closed-source Pajeet code version using Micro$hit's version of Java?
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@SuperSnekFriend @Iffine you can tell it's fucking pajeet code too because redstone works differently. Why the fuck would redstone work differently when they wrote the game from the ground up in the new codebase? The answer is it's because these people suck at their fucking job.
I shouldn't have to memorize two different electrical systems for when I play with friends who have java or my cousin who only has bedrock.
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@Iffine @SuperSnekFriend This is precisely why they still have built in rollback. I guarantee the stuffed suits at microshit want so badly to get rid of players being able to play any older version of the game they want because it takes away a little bit more control away from them and gives it back to the player.
Credit to notch for making his game jewproof by setting a standard of slight respect. I guarantee if the rollback hadn't been a thing they would have forced everyone onto bedrock with no hesitation. I don't know how the madman did it, but he somehow managed to sell his game without killing it, because no matter how much microshit jews it now they can't take away the earlier versions.
Hell there's an entire mod that turns java into the legacy console editions.
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@Kyonko802 @SuperSnekFriend It's not much a conspiracy theorist so much as the truth. Microsoft is desperate to kill off Java and force everyone to play Bedrock with micro-transactions, no modding, much more controlled moderation, etc. Only reason they can't is because of how absolutely massive Java still is. Sure, from a numbers standpoint Bedrock has more players since it's the version on every platform, but it'd be rather difficult to actually pull out of Java when it's "smaller playerbase" is in the tens of millions of the most vocal players.
For reference, a modpack that released only ~1 1/2 years ago, All the Mods 10, has 4 million downloads. If Microsoft were to actually start trying to kill this, it wouldn't be just the people who make video essays on youtube bringing them to court. It'd be screaming and lawsuits from an unknowable population.
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@Iffine @Kyonko802
> it wouldn't be just the people who make video essays on youtube bringing them to court. It'd be screaming and lawsuits from an unknowable population.
Funny you mention that. People are trying to sue for legitimate grievances regarding the ToS/EULA over fucking video game firearms.
youtube.com/watch?v=C5RvoPQZQeM
Imagine being such gun control and political cucks that you have to severaly break the law to stop people from enjoying virtual versions of firearms, even fantastical or sci-fi versions. And doing that, despite Minecraft long having gun mods before now.
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@SuperSnekFriend Notch is making Minecraft 2 and it will hopefully be much cooler, less minority and troon saturated and have better things I'm sure of it.
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@Iffine @Kyonko802 @SuperSnekFriend killing the Java Edition would effectively start another golden age for modders
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@MoeBritannica @Iffine @SuperSnekFriend We're actually already seeing this. Most modders are still on 1.20.1 and staying there for a while. Thats the version I'm playing right now.
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@Iffine @SuperSnekFriend I really hpe this lawsuit goes through, because the reality is they don't actually care about people adding guns, they just want to have an excuse to delete servers and mods they don't like personally. Anything they make against the rules will be inconsistently applied.
I know this because of the chat report fiasco.
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@SuperSnekFriend @Kyonko802 I was kinda making the jab at this guy over it but honestly I do hope the case goes through. A company needs to be held accountable for their actions, and while he had little luck with contacting agencies to represent him, the EU still heavily looks down upon corporations trying to abuse and draw out the legal system just because a citizen isn't a megacorp. Should it reach the courts he has a much better chance of getting something out of the whole debacle, problem is just reaching the courts since it seems the Swedish government is really lax on Mojang as a massive economic driver.
Asshole troons shouldn't have control over how I enjoy playing a game.
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@Iffine @MoeBritannica @SuperSnekFriend Anyone who owns java already owns bedrock. As for them hunting down people for modding a user side copy of the game, I couldn't see it happening in any real sense. Even nintendo failed to stop switch emulation with their nasty litigation of yuzu and ryuujinx
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@Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @SuperSnekFriend Modders usually linger on specific versions for a while honestly. 1.7.10 was the first one for it, then 1.12.2, I think 1.16.5 was for a short while, and 1.20.1 is the most recent one yeah. Constantly updating just isn't worth it when newer features are often worthless and the amount of reworking needing to be done can take a while should they overhaul anything.
Sadly though if Microsoft killed Java edition, they wouldn't "create a golden age for modders." They'd offer all Java edition players a copy of Bedrock for free, then stop distributing the game entirely. They'd force piracy and start attacking modding sites for "supporting piracy of content." It'd kill modding entirely as most users are horrified of dealing with legal systems.
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@Kyonko802 @Iffine @MoeBritannica
> I couldn't see it happening in any real sense
Except that is exactly what they are doing with the firearm modding fiasco. That may be on a smaller scale than removing whole communities, but the principles to do so are being practiced by Microsoft and Mojang.
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@SuperSnekFriend @Iffine @MoeBritannica And to that I say good fucking luck
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@Kyonko802 @MoeBritannica @SuperSnekFriend Well, it's not exactly about actually hunting people down. It's all about sending the message. If you can't get an official download of the game's files from the server anymore, the number of legally obtained copies with the specific functional version would start dwindling over time. From there, Microsoft can attack the bigger modding sites with frivolous claims. Send them warning notices about their modders "supporting the illegal obtainment of this game they no longer provide". Curseforge would easily fold as they always want to be on the good side of bigger companies. Countless mods and assets gone with little archival done so far, most mod makers not wanting to enter Microsoft's crosshairs by rehosting assets (even if they wouldn't actually sue modders), and a large population of normalfags terrified of legal ramifications.
It's the same idea as when Nintendo took down the emulators. You think they weren't aware it was a fool's errand to actually kill them? The goal is just scaring away larger crowds. Your average normalfag, when they see a situation like this, runs the other way. They would never dare get involved if legality is mentioned. For the most part, it works.
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@SuperSnekFriend @Iffine @MoeBritannica Sure, kinda like how ryujinx original team gave up. No debate that was damaging. But damaging enough to kill? No.
The only way they could really REALLY kill minecraft is if they unplugged the internet from the world.
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@Kyonko802 @Iffine @MoeBritannica
Any attempts by M$/Mojang do not need to be successful in their goals to cause irreparable changes and suffering. The very process is the punishment.
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@Kyonko802 @Iffine @MoeBritannica
>if they unplugged the internet from the world.
Don't give the elites ideas. :jahy_scared:
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@SuperSnekFriend @Iffine @MoeBritannica :kekw:
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@Kyonko802 @SuperSnekFriend @MoeBritannica You are completely right they could never kill it. Sadly though the ramifications would still be immense. It'd take a while for anything to be properly organized and not threatened by Microsoft (only threats though, same to how Nintendo had no actual legal case against Ryujinx, especially in Brazil where companies have less legal rights than an ant, so they just paid the dev a massive payday to nuke it all without warning).
Thankfully though for the current moment this is all speculation on how Microsoft could fuck people over. They can't do a damn thing yet and are likely afraid to even attempt anything. I could see people trying to bring it all back, but it'd be a massive fight and Microsoft would be quick on the draw with DMCA claims that have minimal backing.
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