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1. Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 04:09:22 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
   Shitlibs bitching about "ableism" are obviously retarded, but there is a grain of truth in that not everyone can "learn to code," not everyone can do HVAC, not everyone can be a plumber, not everyone can be a Panda Express Manager, etc. If you don't have somewhat decent remuneration for a wide variety of jobs at a wide variety of skill levels, that's going to lead to social problems. Some people aren't super smart, some aren't very physically capable, some don't do well in social situations. Excepting the extremely incompetent and irresponsible, it should be a social priority for people to be able to earn a living wage under reasonable working conditions, even if they have one or two shortcomings that make them a poor fit for whatever hot field is in vogue right now.
   • kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 04:15:58 JST kuteboiCoder

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     @ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
     
     ahh, so now we're #Kantian posting.
     
     or perhaps #Benthamite posting? #greatestgood #forthegreatestnumber

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 04:15:58 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • kuteboiCoder
     @KuteboiCoder
     Or just trying to reverse engineer something vaguely resembling a healthy society bound by mutual obligations. If society doesn't owe me anything, to what do I owe society?
   • koropokkur :verified: :amigacheck: (koropokkur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 04:17:19 JST koropokkur :verified: :amigacheck:

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     @ArdainianRight the joke is that people think the phrase "all men are created equal" means something it doesnt.
     it was meant to refer to being equal under the LAW, which has long been tossed by the current governing admin.
     Ardainian Hebrew Israelite likes this.
   • kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 08:08:34 JST kuteboiCoder

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     @ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
     
     reinventing classical liberalism from scratch is a mistake, because reinventing anything from scratch is a mistake, as G.K. Chesterton would readily remind us.
     
     The real question is whether our ancestors built a civilization where people, broadly speaking, could earn a living wage under reasonable working conditions. Also of interest is whether any other culture has ever achieved this.

   • kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 08:08:34 JST kuteboiCoder

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     @ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
     
     I'm happy to be proven wrong, but my understanding of history is that nations and cultures achieve broad-based prosperity for very brief periods, in the aftermath of a major territorial conquest or postwar economic boom (on the winning side).
     
     I'm not aware of any counterexamples.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 08:08:34 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • kuteboiCoder
     @KuteboiCoder
     I don't expect perfection. It's more of an ideal to strive for. What bothers me is the open contempt the political class has for normal people who want help with that.