@PurpCat@dcc@ins0mniak I should have picked a different band but Rage Against the Machine is the perfect illustration of some dickheads posing as the face of a movement that would, if it were serious and successful, result in the record label execs being lined up against the wall. Those record label execs sold Rage Against the Machine albums because they want to cover the segments of the market that were not buying AC/DC and Metallica or Snoop or whoever else was in the Top 40 back then.
No, it's worse now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZ0OSEViyo . He has some other commentary about why music stagnated (record labels have gotten too reliant on post-production tools and thus the bands are just faces and the songs are all written by the same guys that wrote the chart-toppers in the 90s and then beatdetective'd/autotuned until they sound like a drum machine.)
One interesting bit from that video is that now Spotify is AI-generating music based on what is popular.
> I mean you can buy socks at the mall you cant go there for your rebellion.
Luckily, there is a new crop of teenagers every year and they are all willing to believe that their consumption patterns will change the world.
Adults do this too. My favorite one recently was when all of the Nascar motherfuckers got mad at Bud Light and switched beers...to other beers also produced by AB InBev.
> Idk tho man, they used to really set the agenda in terms of what got radio access and such.
You still need a UPC to get onto Spotify and unless you get the label's blessing, you don't get promoted: you need someone to screw you over for money if you want to get money.
> Might be my personal tastes as a bias but I say good riddance.
Yeah, the radio sucks. I haven't listened in a long time; I don't know how MKULTRA stays plugged into that stuff (Youtube, probably), but I think he's been my main exposure to popular music in recent years.
Idk tho man, they used to really set the agenda in terms of what got radio access and such.
I guess Id rather just listen to something that someone made in their room on a laptop if anything. Might be my personal tastes as a bias but I say good riddance.
Obviously shit like spotify is going to do that kind of crap. I just have to asume that theres always going to be someone who wants to make some noise even if it doesn't get them a deal with a record label or something.
That's true, but I hate that people feel the need to use spotify in general, like I get it but I hate it.
I have this overly romantic idea of people running websites and posting their own music there or to like bandcamp or something. I get it it's not practical or realistic but that's my dream.
So yeah in that sense I think you're right.
Youtube is what it is but at least anyone can upload their work.
1. People here are mostly oblivious 2. It's a tiny self-marginalized group
I like calling it #altfedi because I think that's what it is: the kids camped out behind the cafeteria, smoking cloves, having a good time but ultimately, having dropped out of life.
I guess the ultimate "edgy normies" are the people on Reddit.
That is, they like to pose at being edgy, while never violating the sacred commandment (promote equality).
Gab is... actually more of a mixed bag than even free speech fedi. I think Torba realized the internazis are useless and ditched them for Christians, and most of those that are coming on are not White.
RATM were captive rebellion, as usual. Bourgeois posing.
Not surprisingly, all the members of the band were related to industry people.
And the fucken normies bought it.
It's funny how most of the music people get nostalgic about from the 1990s is the stuff we desperately tried to avoid (Soundgarden, Nirvana, REM themselves an edgy bourgeois captive rebellion against Madonna, Springsteen, and Def Leppard).
Now the normies are doing it again, but with the internet. Edgy poseurs like poast, or pretentious normie meatsuits like mastodon.social. Same shit, different day.
> Not surprisingly, all the members of the band were related to industry people.
:vomit:
> people get nostalgic about from the 1990s is the stuff we desperately tried to avoid (Soundgarden, Nirvana, REM themselves an edgy bourgeois captive rebellion against Madonna, Springsteen, and Def Leppard).
Ough. Augh.
I will say that I do like "Black Hole Sun". But bringing those guys up made me remember the fuckin' Stone Temple Pilots and the 311 and the Weezer and then I got mad, all the shitty bands that you couldn't escape. Radio killed the radio star.
I am not a huge fan of Superdrag, but I will say, like, they had their their one-hit but then the album after that was them burning the studio as savagely as they could, and that is a respectable activity. (Respectable enough that I listened to it. I didn't like it, but I still did appreciate the burn.)
> Now the normies are doing it again, but with the internet.
I'd say Gab and Nice Crew Dot Digital are the edgy normies, but tastes vary. You will get no argument from me about mastodong social being
This is where you have missed the point again, and I have covered this before. I go into a room with my friends and I say hello to them and I talk to them and then you come into the room and ask why it isn't a stadium and why there are no megaphones and jumbotrons and then say that the people in the room are a tiny, self-marginalized group. It is possible to type a thing into a computer and not intend to use that thing to get rich and famous but just to communicate with friends. This is you being oblivious.