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1. Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 10:01:57 JST Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat:

   • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
   @dave so does this make libraries illegal now?
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 10:01:51 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     their fuckup was lifting the limit for a few months and then telling the world they did this. If they had just learned the valuable lesson of "shutting the fuck up" then they might have been able to get away longer. Publishers were just waiting for the IA to do something fucktarded like that.
     
     A while back on Shitter it became very common to reply to Kotaku covering fangames of Nintendo franchises with "stop snitching" or "you blew it" for this very reason. IA hasn't had their pulse on how megacorps react for years and think they can lawyer their way out of everything with goodwill, which as the Reddit founder an heroing over a 6 month sentence showed doesn't work.
   • Scarlet :02_dance: (scarlet@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 10:01:55 JST Scarlet :02_dance:

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     @sjw @dave
     They can say that all they want, who exactly can prove it's the truth? And since they were giving out digital copies of physical books, some questions arise: where did those digital copies originate from? If IA digitized themselves, did they ask for permission to do so? If IA didn't do the digitization, even bigger problems arise.
     
     And we're still dealing with the issue if it's legal for a random organization to lend these books on mass in the first place. If IA isn't legally registered as a library, and I'm not sure it is, that's a big problem. Libraries are given special protection for these things. You try lending out your legally acquired music, movies, games, etc. to millions of people, and see how well that works for you. This is why I think the issue probably stems from IA not being recognized as a library. IA's primary activity wasn't and isn't functioning as a library. This came way down the line, after they were already hosting plenty of stuff they shouldn't have (and they still do, whether knowingly or unknowingly). From the little I've observed of them, it feels like they tried to switch to a library system to cover their asses a bit. You can disagree if you want, but let's not pretend that IA doesn't have a shit ton of copyrighted and pirated material on their site.
   • Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 10:01:56 JST Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat:

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     @scarlet @dave the way it worked is you logged in and could check out books for either an hour or 14 days depending on their supply. They had a physical copy of every book they loaned out and only loaned out as many copies as they physically had at the time.
   • Scarlet :02_dance: (scarlet@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 10:01:57 JST Scarlet :02_dance:

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     @sjw @dave The issue probably stems from IA not being recognized as a legitimate library. Never used it personally, but it seemed iffy to me. Always had a suspicion their lending system might land them in hot water.
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 10:14:45 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     What got them in hot water and the publishers (who were watching IA like a hawk and wanting to fuck up CDL by doing it their way (see how streaming became a joke when everyone had their own services)) on their asses wasn't just Chuck Wendig, but rather lifting the limit during COVID.
     
     If they had not done this, they could have continued to say fair use. To some industry bought judge, they are literally no different than libgen, IA was only allowed to get away with what they could for so long from being low profile enough. A lot of people in the preservation sphere have privately said the same thing about this in Discord groups, that IA was going too high profile and picking the wrong fights.
     
     Furthermore their actions during the KF saga and COVID scares have also burnt supporters and don't get me started on the elephant in the room known as Jason Scott (which I won't get into), as one guy I know said "meh I could care less after they catered to whining women online".
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 13:01:43 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • touch fluffy tail
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     Textfiles on Twitter
     https://twitter.com/textfiles
     
     One of the big name IA guys, definitely the most vocal and biggest in the retrocomputing scene. He has a very checkered reputation for the most part, and so does IA with terms of actual preservation (notably, FTP sites were not archived). He has a very eceleb behavior pattern too.
   • touch fluffy tail (fluffy@social.handholding.io)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 13:01:51 JST touch fluffy tail

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     • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸
     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     who is jason scott
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 13:03:44 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     IA is the big elephant in the room, what their goal is to do is to set an example I'm sure being that they hide behind the idea of ethics. The publishers/glowies already went after Z-Library, but since IA is in the USA they can do it lawsuit style.
     
     https://torrentfreak.com/tag/zlibrary/
   • Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2023 13:03:45 JST Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat:

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     @PhenomX6 @scarlet @dave so does this mean they'll go after everyone else who broke the laws on a count of the lockdowns?
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 03:23:25 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     They cucked and blacklisted the site from IA which they're notorious for doing when people whine.
     https://gizmodo.com/when-the-internet-archive-forgets-1830462131
   • Scarlet :02_dance: (scarlet@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 03:23:26 JST Scarlet :02_dance:

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     @PhenomX6 @sjw @dave
     >Furthermore their actions during the KF saga
     Not familiar with this. Care to share a TL;DR?
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 03:26:41 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     Also; IA has two notorious flaws in the wayback machine:
     1. They never saved FTP sites (which means many patches and files are lost forever).
     2. IA would instantly and still blocks websites/excludes them with a robots.txt message, in the pre-wrongthink era it was the "Page cannot be crawled due to robots.txt" error.
     
     Here's one example:
     https://virtuallyfun.com/2020/08/12/digital-com-purges-digital/
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 03:27:41 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • Johnny Peligro :cirno:
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     Those are user uploads and PDFs scraped from elsewhere such as bitsavers.
   • Johnny Peligro :cirno: (mischievoustomato@boks.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 03:27:43 JST Johnny Peligro :cirno:

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     @sjw @scarlet @dave with IA you have it forever without buying
   • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅 (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 03:27:44 JST 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅

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     • Scarlet :02_dance:

     @sjw @scarlet I think it’s the hour system that made it a problem. You still want creators who put out good work to get paid.

   • Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 03:27:44 JST Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat:

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     @dave @scarlet How is that different from going into a library and looking at a book for a few hours?
     
     They only did hours if they didn't have a lot of copies. E.g. I checked out a cooking book for one hour. One hour was all that was available because they only had one copy. As long as nobody else requested it, it'd continue to auto-renewal as I was looking at it.
   • Lemonheep (lemonheep@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 11:32:38 JST Lemonheep

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     @PhenomX6 @scarlet @sjw @dave So much for an "archive." It's as good at media preservation as a burning library.
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Mar-2023 11:32:38 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅
     • Lemonheep
     • Scarlet :02_dance:
     you can dedrm ebooks and pirate them from there