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@victor @MaceDindu @NEETzsche @n3f_X @book But is that quantum element really "free" and not just probabilistic randomness? Do "you" have any meaningful control here, or are you still a slave to RNG? I feel like it's easier and more useful to believe that you do have control and can choose, but deep down I'm not always sure that's the case.
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@ArdainianRight @victor @NEETzsche @book @n3f_X Right. That's my point. A lot of people seem to think that RNG is somehow the way out of determinism. But how does that that rescue "free will?" Imagine I said to you that "if the universe had rolled different, mabye you wouldn't have done "X." Does that rescue free will? I don't see how. Fundamentally, I don't see how the entire concept makes any sense. I once got into an argument with some dumb bitch about whether one could choose what he believes. I still hold that one can't. I can't choose to believe this or that. I believe what I believe; there's complicated reasons for that, which may or may not hinge on quantum physics, but what sense does it make to say I "choose" to believe what I do?
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@MaceDindu @victor @NEETzsche @n3f_X @book What if whether or not you have free will is determined by RNG? If you roll a 99 you can choose, but if you roll a 14 you're a slave to your impulses.