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Ronnie21093 (ronnie21093@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:33:14 JST Ronnie21093
@mischievoustomato @arcana @SergeantCat :cirno_laugh: Holy shit you're fucking retarded. For the price they're asking for a Mac, I could easily build a good PC that could do everything I needed. You are NOT getting your money's worth with a Mac.
Their tablets and iPhones are overpriced as fuck too. I can easily get an Android that is just as powerful for less than the average cost of an iPhone :guraKekw:

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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:36:21 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
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  - Arcana
  - Sergeant Cat
  you can build a machine for you, yes, but for others stuff is different. You're not really saying anything of substance, and no, performance isn't everything. @Ronnie21093 @arcana @SergeantCat
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:36:21 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat it is when you actually know how to use something. Apples standards for convenience have caused a competency crisis and have started bleeding into other products.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:38:22 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat when the schools don't have to teach what a file structure is anymore because their iPad does everything for them it is apples fault actually.
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:38:23 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
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  @Kyonko802 @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat not my problem and stuff being convenient and easy to use is a good thing. Competency being awful is a school/education problem
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:43:40 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat when your standard is lowered in common use devices do you really expect people to bother keeping up with "old" stuff? Humans are animals of convenience. You're talking about the species that kills themselves slowly with fast food over cooking their own dinner because it takes less time in the short term.
  
  If you think big tech companies aren't encouraging this money brain shit I have a bridge to sell you.
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:43:41 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
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  @Kyonko802 @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat what? no, it's not, the school should still teach that, that they don't is a thing only because whoever manages the schooling system is stupid and made a dumb move. Apple isn't at fault at all
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:48:40 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat i agree, but to say big tech isn't helping this garbage along is fucking delusional when they actively discourage any digging around or tinkering with their devices. They won't even fucking let you repair them.
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:48:41 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
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  @Kyonko802 @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat Yes, because the old stuff is not old, it's still in computers. Sure, humans are animals of convenience, but if you have a school system that doesn't give a shit about teaching computer literacy at all, then people will only learn what they can manage to learn on their own. Computer usage should be a basic thing that is taught at school for everyone, even for people that don't really care about it
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:53:06 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
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  @Kyonko802 @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat The thing about repair is indeed bullshit, but the thing about about discouraging tinkering is a side effect of users being retards and easily being led into harming themselves.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 01:53:06 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat
  
  >he thinks companies are locking down their systems to protect people
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:00:09 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat all that is to them is a valid excuse to lock it down more they don't actually give a flying fuck what you screw up.
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:00:10 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
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  @Kyonko802 @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat a bit of it is control, another is protection (smewhat of users, somewhat of the company looking bad)
  have you not seen people angrily say "how the fuck is this feature allowed, google/apple/microsoft fix this!!" or "i installed this apk and lost all my savings, google fix it!!!"? I have, I have
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:08:06 JST Kyonko802
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  @pettanko @mischievoustomato @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat @arcana i call this convenience getting in the way of actual usage. Everything is so streamlined and retard proof that you can't even do anything of merit.
  
  Shit should be user friendly, but NOT to this level. They're progressively trying to make it like that stupid block game that children play and every major update make the deeper settings more obscure and harder to access.
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:08:07 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
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  @pettanko @arcana @Kyonko802 @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat If they do have a computer (laptop, desktop) it will stick, and so will with phones and tablets too, especially these days that stuff is done with shit like google drive and the like. Hell doesn't even the iphone have a file manager app?
  
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- pettanko (pettanko@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:08:07 JST pettanko
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Kyonko802 @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat >Hell doesn't even the iphone have a file manager app?
  Yeah but why would you ever use it?
  
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- pettanko (pettanko@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:08:08 JST pettanko
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Kyonko802 @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat Just because schools teach it doesn't mean kids will actually remember it if they never use it outside of school. How many kids learn a foreign language in school and then forget it because they never actually use it?
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:15:20 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
  in reply to
  @Kyonko802 @arcana @Ronnie21093 @pettanko @SergeantCat the mere existence makes
  >retard proof
  stuff necessary nowadays.
  I will agree that a lot of things do annoyingly get dumber as time passes, but at the same time I found some stuff working in a nice new way that makes sense and is helpful.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:15:20 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat @pettanko it is not necessary it is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you make shit so retards use it then everyone will eventually become retarded because they don't have to learn anything new.
  
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- Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:18:58 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
  in reply to
  @Kyonko802 @arcana @Ronnie21093 @pettanko @SergeantCat There still will be loud and stupid people that will get tricked and that'll be enough to get companies and law makers and politicians screech about having to change stuff, though. The real solution, that I still hold, is to have actual computer classes that are considered important.
  
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- Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 02:18:58 JST Kyonko802
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  @mischievoustomato @arcana @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat @pettanko good luck doing that while ease of use is the main tagline.
  
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- Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 04:52:00 JST Suzu :miku_happy:
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  @pettanko @Kyonko802 @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat @arcana @mischievoustomato because:
  1 - sometimes the place the files were supposed to go is not the place I want them to be
  2 - there are many file types (usually the more obscure ones) that the system has no idea what to do with, and it will either put them in the wrong places, or put everything in a "dumpster" folder where a lot of different files will live together not organized
  3 - many phone apps do their own thing and put files in their own folders instead of putting them where they are supposed to go, and then other apps aren't able to find them because they don't look into those folders
  
  These are insurmountable problems for most iOS users, and the main reason why they get completely screwed when any app changes the way their "forward to" function works.
  
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- pettanko (pettanko@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 04:52:01 JST pettanko
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  @Suzu @Kyonko802 @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat @arcana @mischievoustomato Yes but for what reason would you ever want to manage your files on iPhone when the phone already puts everything where they're "supposed" to go anyway?
  
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- Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 04:52:02 JST Suzu :miku_happy:
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  @pettanko @mischievoustomato @Kyonko802 @Ronnie21093 @SergeantCat @arcana to manage your files?
  
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