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1. Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:30:03 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

   I found a very odd Google search bug/misfeature on android: I've somehow gotten stuck in Brown Mode.

   It happens in both Firefox and Chrome, and as long as I'm signed into my account, it's brown.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:31:52 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     There's no color theme settings I can find, and while I thought this was a dark mode issue, the dark mode options are quite minimal:

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:32:47 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     And all three of those options either give me the regular non-dark theme, or the new Brown theme.

     None give me the Grey Dark Theme, the one I get when I'm logged out.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:34:29 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Adam Cafolla

     @adaliabooks oh god if they're automatically applying that based on dark mode + my location/time, and they just don't know my location when I'm logged out?

     I hope that's not it.

   • Adam Cafolla (adaliabooks@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:34:30 JST Adam Cafolla

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     @foone

     Looks like some kind of blue light filter mode?

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:35:22 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Ben Hardill

     @ben I know about that, it's off, and why would it only apply when I'm logged in?

   • Ben Hardill (ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:35:24 JST Ben Hardill

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     @foone Modern Android has a feature to adjust themes to match things like the wallpaper image iirc.

     Let me see if I can find it

   • Jax (jgullberg@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:35:55 JST Jax

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     @foone looks like some sort of red shift mode for nighttime viewing. Does that track with your configured timezone when logged in?

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:35:55 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Jax

     @jgullberg yeah. It might be time based.

     Terrible if so, but I can imagine it

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:40:32 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Grabbed a tablet: logged in or out over there gives me the grey theme (Although it looks bluish there, which could mean everything or nothing).

     Possibly important note: the tablet is logged into a different Google account

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:44:13 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     It's been suggested this could be a dynamic coloration based on androids dynamic themeing. Nope, changed my wallpaper to completely different colors.
     I also tried applying the "color palette" feature (which was off) to make my whole OS pink and blue. Still brown.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:46:33 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Snep :floofBlep:

     @snep it's a galaxy S22, on android 14

   • Snep :floofBlep: (snep@y.diskcat.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:46:34 JST Snep :floofBlep:

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     @foone What device is it? At least on a Pixel with Android 14, there's the option to select an accent color in Settings -> Wallpaper & style which (I think) can also affect font colors in other apps

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:52:08 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Same for the OS-level dark mode. I had it on, but turning it off (and turning on the Google-search settings dark mode) still gives me brown.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:53:32 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Also not affected by if Firefox's dark mode is off or on.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:54:30 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     I'm starting to think we have too many dark mode switches.
     You should have one, not multiple intricately nested ones, but I fully understand why it's not easy to make it work that way.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:56:39 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Annoyingly this is only happening on my personal account, so I'm not set up to easily lie to Google about where I am or what time it is.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 19:59:57 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     It's not the "eye comfort shield" blue-light filter either. When that's on, the UI of the Browser and OS are affected, not just Google, and Google looks different: this is a clear theme, not just a full screen color filter.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:03:01 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     For my final test, I need to wait until it's "a time Google thinks I should be awake" in my timezone, because right now my leading theory is that Google is applying their own blue-light-filter by switching into a second THIRD SEARCH SKIN based on the current timezone + location.

     And when I log out*/use private browsing/use incognito: it doesn't know my location to personalize it to.

     *haven't actually tried logging out, just private modes. I hope that is not an oversight.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:05:56 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     It is way too "I have been awake for 20 hours" for me to attempt logging back into my Google account without accidentally deleting everything and forgetting all my passwords and my mother's maiden name*.

     * hey what if I have two dads, neither of which changed their name? It's the 90s, it's possible! These poor kids can never have a quite-shitty password-reminder!

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:23:00 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Leonard Ritter

     @lritter you forgot:
     ⚪ Brown

   • Leonard Ritter (lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:23:01 JST Leonard Ritter

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     @foone
     ⚪ light mode
     ⚪ dark mode
     ⚪ inverted light mode
     ⚪ inverted dark mode
     ⚪ inverted mode
     ⚪ negative light mode
     ⚪ negative dark mode
     ⚪ negative inverted light mode
     🔘 negative inverted dark mode
     ⚪ negative mode
     ⚪ negative inverted mode

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:26:16 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     It's also possible there is nothing at all I can do that affects this, and it's just some A/B testing that one of my accounts got in the segment for and the other didn't.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:33:08 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     In 1948, B. F. Skinner's "Superstition in the Pigeon" showed that if you fed pigeons at completely random times, they would still try to predict when they'd be fed. Absent any information or pattern for when they'll be fed, they become "superstitious".
     The repeat specific behaviors, turning in place, waving, pecking at a specific spot on the floor...

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:34:26 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     They do this, he asserts, because they're trying to repeat the meaningless actions that happened the last time they "won", and got fed.
     It's like a lucky pair of pants you always wear when your team wins.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:37:26 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     In both cases, there's no action that leads to the win condition, and no information to accurately predict the outcome.

     But both our brains and the pigeon's brain don't work like that. They assume there are patterns and tries to find them. They assume it's not just all random and unpredictable.

     That's usually a good thing! It clearly is very useful, for both us and pigeons, to figure out the patterns... because usually there are!

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:40:11 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Many things are related and predictable. Basic physics for example: if a thing is in the air, it will fall down. Get out of the way.

     Definitely a pattern there!
     (Although you may need to adjust for the "flying" loophole)

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:43:04 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     That's why we evolved a "pattern finding" brain. Because there's patterns in the world, and recognizing them is useful.

     Anyway, I think of those pigeons, spinning in place, perhaps praying to some God of Food Pellets they invented, and how they don't know there's no pattern and all there actions are meaningless. The cruel scientist man built this game so you can't win, and worse: you don't know you can't win, so you have to keep trying.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:44:50 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     I thing about them and how I've been doing professional "computer stuff" for like two and a half decades now and BOY does it feel like we're spinning pigeons a frightening amount of the time.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 20:45:43 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Anyways, A/B testing: because gaslighting is cool if you do it in parallel at scale!

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 21:39:55 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     • hattifattener

     @hattifattener yeah, one of my favorite books as kid. I've owned three distinct copies.

   • hattifattener (hattifattener@wandering.shop)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 21:39:56 JST hattifattener

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     @foone Have you read "House of Stairs"? It made a bit of an impression on me as a kid. The author's other stuff was similarly intense if I recall.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 24-Oct-2024 07:21:02 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     Still brown at 3:20pm. So it's not time based.