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1. Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:59:40 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
   I get a lot of shitting on Elon, but if you seriously think there's no difference between him and Jack controlling Twitter, you're a retard. There wouldn't have been nearly enough attention given to the DIE FEMA hurricane aftermath in Appalachia as the jannies suppress "misinformation," among other things. Just preventing people who are 100% opposed to us from having a social media monopoly limits so much of what they can do in terms of narrative control.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:47:49 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @veff
     Twitter is still way more influential than Fedi and reaches way more people. And I don't even really buy that Elon is "burning" the site down, since the whole point was to have a major social media outlet to influence the election. Network effects make it really hard to kill a site like Twitter, no matter how much people bitch about it. It's fine for people like us to stay on Fedi, and under Elon it's than much easier for our content to trickle down and encourage others to check out Fedi. Any fracturing and competition among the elites gives us more freedom and room to work.
   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:47:50 JST veff :trash:

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     @ArdainianRight I get why people like it, but my contention was that he gave people I don't like (jack & co.) tons of money for a site that funnels people from *actual* free speech options like fedi, and anyone who willingly walked back on that plantation is not making a wise long term decision. It would have been much better in the long run if these tech giants died a stagnant death while alternatives kept growing.
     That being said, Elon may inadvertently help kill xitter because everyone looks at that site like the plague now, and that sorta accomplishes the long term strategy of burning social media down, just in a really money-inefficient way.
   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 04:48:00 JST ins0mniak

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     @ArdainianRight It was worth it to see journos get their stupid toy taken away from them.
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   • Sprocket (stp@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:03:43 JST Sprocket

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     @ArdainianRight @veff
     Exactly.
     Even the most retarded journos notice that bluesky or their anti-freeze peach fedi instances are circlejerks.
     They can block any dissent, but there's much less engagement.

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   • Witch Hunter Siegfired (witch_hunter_siegfired@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 05:25:29 JST Witch Hunter Siegfired

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     • veff :trash:
     @ArdainianRight @veff I’m salty cus I was banned for stupid shit, but that’s cus I’m used to placed like here Gab or Frenly Discords, where I don’t have to use bywords or the like, though most of it was fucking stupid, troonjak posting and a joke about Helldivers 2. But all of that aside it’s good that Musk’s opened things up a fair bit (for now...) as it allows more frens to get redpilled and both retarded Leftoids and MIGAts to sperg lmao
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   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:40:29 JST veff :trash:

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     • broken god

     @cvnt @ArdainianRight You say that, but it's incredibly grating when you have friends and family irl who you'd like to keep in touch with, yet who demand you use dogshit communication means like snapchat and discord. I don't want to deal with normie strangers who deserve it, I want to talk to normie familiars who don't deserve it but are too gosh-darn stupid to understand what's wrong with using them.

   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:40:29 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @veff @cvnt
     So much normie local community shit being organized through fucking Facebook is the biggest offender.
   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:40:30 JST veff :trash:

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     @ArdainianRight >Network effects make it really hard to kill a site like Twitter
     yeah thats partially what I mean though. Elon opening Twitter back up meant that fedi *lost* any real network effect which is a net negative. I can't be 100% certain, but I have a hunch that big name sites being more restrictive (requiring phone #s, shadowbanning, alt-banning) is actually more beneficial in the long term because it allows a larger market for actual solutions, rather than your own right to speech switching hands between billionaires on a whim. If Elon can buy your freedom, half a dozen other powerful men can buy it back.
     It's like discord. Life would be way better if people actually used other software for communication and group chats but because they're not popular now, the only way to make them popular is for discord to fall.
   • broken god (cvnt@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 06:40:30 JST broken god

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     @veff @ArdainianRight
     
     Plebs deserve shit.