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1. Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:34:12 JST Eugen Rochko

   It's always a pleasure to see a popular Threads account with fediverse-sharing enabled. Despite such a vast difference in the platforms, we can achieve a human connection. But fediverse integration in Threads is still in a sorry state over a year since launch. They need to be able to follow us back. They need to see when we mention them. Those are such basic things.

   • Bellison22 (bellison22@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:38:01 JST Bellison22

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     @Gargron I agree, whole heartedly. Yes, platforms are different but we should be able to cross "pollinate" easily

   • Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:44:20 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     @Gargron — your point of view is very important here.

   • ✦ Velvet Strawberry ✦ (vstrawberry@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 08:11:59 JST ✦ Velvet Strawberry ✦

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     @Gargron Somehow, I am a concerned Meta is up to no good. Let's hope I am wrong. I am more optimistic with BlueSky. Is so nice there!

   • Bluebabbler (bluebabbler@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 08:29:20 JST Bluebabbler

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     @Gargron 'Human connection' requires the same level of interaction on both ends. This seems just being... audience.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 08:54:33 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • Darnell Clayton :verified:

     @darnell @threads @mosseri @zuck Where did you hear this?

   • Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 08:54:34 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     @Gargron They will! @threads will enable two-way communication either this month, next month, or in December before Christmas 🎄!

     @mosseri & @zuck are probably working on scalability & moderation issues before they enable two-way communication.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:22:04 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃

     @Sir_Osis_of_Liver Well, you could say "If I wanted to be on beige.party, I'd have a beige.party account", and yet here we are talking to each other while using completely separate platforms. That's the principle of the fediverse and I don't see why it shouldn't apply to Threads. I want to talk to people regardless of which platform they choose.

   • Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃 (sir_osis_of_liver@beige.party)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:22:05 JST Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃

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     @Gargron

     If I wanted to be on Threads, I'd have a Threads account.

     As far as I'm concerned they can fuck all the way off.

     I moved to an instance that blocks Threads so I don't have to interact with them.

   • Janimary (janimary@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:29:06 JST Janimary

     in reply to

     @Gargron how are you doing

   • The Flight Attendant (cosmictraveler@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:32:41 JST The Flight Attendant

     in reply to

     @Gargron They still can't see when we mention them? So all the federated threads accounts I've been requesting to ask their friends to federate can't even see my request? Great.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:35:01 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • The Flight Attendant

     @CosmicTraveler Yes. Unless it's in a reply to their post.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:42:18 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃

     @Sir_Osis_of_Liver Do you refuse to accept text messages or phone calls from friends unless they're on the same phone network as you? Do you refuse to send e-mails to your friends unless they self-host their e-mail? It should not matter what provider you use. People should be able to connect. That's the principle of the fediverse.

   • Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃 (sir_osis_of_liver@beige.party)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:42:19 JST Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃

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     @Gargron

     If you can't see the difference between a massive, industry dominating conglomerate with a history of devastating what it considers to be competitors, and an instance run as a hobby, then I can't help you.

     Frankly, I can't believe anyone could be that naive.

   • The Flight Attendant (cosmictraveler@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 09:51:12 JST The Flight Attendant

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     @Gargron Ok, cool. I've been replying to people's posts. So I think they can see me but so far nobody has gotten anyone I've asked to federate. I'll keep trying.

   • sashk 🇺🇦 (sashk@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 10:00:32 JST sashk 🇺🇦

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     @Gargron agree, but i'm surprised we can follow _anyone_ there. didn't expect that fediverse integration would even go live. hope in a year or two it will work better ;)

   • John Gruber (gruber@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 10:47:02 JST John Gruber

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     @Gargron It’s weird when you think about. It’s like they’ve drilled a peephole in the wall, but it’s obvious they need to build a full door.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 11:33:01 JST Eugen Rochko

     • A Person

     @timdesuyo I want to understand, how does this in your view have anything to do with anyone controlling what you see? You are on Mastodon. Here you control what you see.

   • DroidPort (droidport@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 13:04:25 JST DroidPort

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     @Gargron this is literally the promise of the fediverse... Without it I don't think Threads should be considered a part of it.

   • Dr Pen (drpen@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 14:05:22 JST Dr Pen

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     • Ghost of Enrico Palazzo 🎃

     @Gargron @Sir_Osis_of_Liver Id say Telecom is a great example. In north UK, a city called Hull has had an independent telecom since forever - Kcom. Hull has NEVER had British Telecom networks or even public phone boxes (theyre white, not red). Even now, it is still independent. Yet, it is seamlessly connected to BT and beyond into global telecom. Other cities/areas could have done this in the past in UK but they chose not to.

   • Fubaroque (fubaroque@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 17:01:17 JST Fubaroque

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     @Gargron 🤣

     I predict that you will not discover that you do not understand what makes Mastodon a success until you try to create your next social network. 🤔

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Oct-2024 02:44:45 JST Eugen Rochko

     in reply to

     • Pcottle

     @pcottle Hi Peter, I appreciate every step towards interoperability, but I’m counting from the day Threads launched publicly, since it was supposed to be a federated platform from the beginning. I’d much rather you be able to send me your response to my post directly from your Threads account instead 🙂

   • Pcottle (pcottle@cyberplace.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Oct-2024 02:44:46 JST Pcottle

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     @Gargron we launched our public beta on March 21st, 30 weeks ago -- not over a year :)

     Since then we have:
     - expanded to 100+ countries
     - gone from outbound publishing + likes to having fediverse replies, media ingestion, integrity screening, profile display
     - implemented transparent blocklists with appeal forms

     And most important of all... haven't ruined the fediverse! Before we launched that was everyone's top worry, and I'd rather be slow and cautious (with our size) vs brazen and careless