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> I can appreciate the meta level of it, but it fails as a gimmick for the non movie nerd crowd.

I also think James Joyce was a douchebag, so your mileage may vary.

I liked Rubber, I hated The Dead Don't Die. The difference is that Rubber was still an attempt to entertain, while The Dead Don't Die was Jarmusch committing a crime to film as a way to pay for a party he threw.

You do have to pick a lane, though, if pastiche has too many levels of foot-shooting but you think it is possible to not punch Jarmusch over The Dead Don't Die.

Jack Lemmon said that the second a comedian thinks he's doing something funny, he stops being funny. Generalizing this gets you a can of Raid to spray Jarmusch with. "Teehee, I'm going to be meta!" You can do "meta" and still make something worth watching, he just didn't. Maybe he can't; Tarantino can't.

> Coffee and Cigs is not a coherent movie, it's not intended to be.

This part is fine.

> It's loosely constructed memes to highlight musicians.

That part is fine. I was bored. I also don't think he does enough with light to warrant putting things in black and white. Pi did: Pi was visually interesting. He's also doing it like he shot it in color and then turned it black and white with a filter; the old episodes of the Twilight Zone, when they used the good film--I don't know what the good film was, I have not understood the mechanics--some of them looked striking. It's hard to describe, but they don't look like they're on a flat screen, they seem to pop out. Jarmusch has put it in black and white for no reason I can discern, though.

I think I have hit my limit for shitting on something people appear to love so I don't wanna. I begin to feel like a terrible person.