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Anti-crypto larpers between May 2021 until last week: "CRYPTO IS A SCAM, TAKE ALL YOUR SAVINGS OUT OF CRYPTO AND PUT IT INTO FIAT, CRYPTO IS GOING TO ZERO!! ZERO!!"
Those same anti-crypto larpers now: "BANKS ARE A SCAM, TAKE ALL YOUR SAVINGS OUT OF THE BANKS AND PUT IT INTO CRYPTO, HYPERINFLATION AHEAD!! REEEE!!"
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Me: They are both scams and dark magic created by a Babylonian cult. Proven right yet again. https://social.076.moe/url/206993
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Still not convinced by that whole "money is the source of all evil" ideology.
But I won't blame you, when people get fat, instead of saying "I'm the fucking idiot who keeps eating McDonald's 3 times a day", they just say "McDonald's is to blame for my weight!".
So no, money itself isn't evil, it's what some people do with it that's evil.
Just like how the internet can be used to have fun and to brainwash, how food can be used to keep you alive and to kill you, and how a gun can be used to defend yourself and kill somebody else, you can use money to trade goods and services, but you can also use it to control people.
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If you are rich, then money is not evil. If you are poor, then money is evil.
I am poor, so I agree that money is the source of all evil.
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I'm not rich, but I do have enough money to pay off bills, put food on the table, and still have enough to spend on hobbies.
It just so happens that the only people who keep saying that money is evil are those who refuse to work while clearly being able to do so (so they can just milk "free money" from the entire rest of the population), or those with a massive student debt (you don't need to have a piece of toilet paper, I mean degree to do most jobs).
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I am assuming that you are in Japan.
How do you get by, if you don't mind my asking
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mup do didda.. muhfuka :AAAAAAAAAA:
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> It just so happens that the only people who keep saying that money is evil are those who refuse to work while clearly being able to do so (so they can just milk "free money" from the entire rest of the population),
I don't understand the reasoning here...? Isn't it the opposite?
> or those with a massive student debt (you don't need to have a piece of toilet paper, I mean degree to do most jobs).
Most business will reject or won't even do an interview without the degrees. Yes, this is stupid. But this works to trap people into the school system.
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No, I am not.
You can ask ryo@social.076.moe instead since he is in Japan.
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> I don't understand the reasoning here...?
Those who refuse to work or have a student debt just love to attack money as a virtue signal (even if they don't realize this).
Because those who don't have money will get it from the state, which on its turn steals from those who work their asses off.
The irony is that as soon as those same people get a well paying job, then all of the sudden they no longer consider money to be evil, and even start complaining about taxation.
Now if you're pensioned or otherwise physically disabled, then that's a different story, I can understand you rely on state handouts in that case perfectly fine.
But not if you're 40 years old in good physical shape, writing "SMASH CAPITALISM!!" on the MacBook Pro all day long in your parents' house while drinking a Starbucks Matcha Late and wearing the latest Gucci accessoiries.
> Isn't it the opposite?
nope.
> Most business will reject or won't even do an interview without the degrees.
I don't have any degrees, yet I've been able to get jobs without any problems.
All you have to show is a decent portfolio and preferrably Git repository, and talk smoothly.
There was a time when degrees were absolutely necessary, but we're speaking of the mid-1990s ~ mid 2000s when universities were made for everyone instead of only the richest and smartest.
But nowadays, unless you want to become a (male) nurse, a plastic surgeon, or something similar to that, you most likely don't need a degree.
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> Because those who don't have money will get it from the state, which on its turn steals from those who work their asses off.
I believe those money are just barely enough for basic expense? In any means, I don't think you can get rich with just those money.
> The irony is that as soon as those same people get a well paying job, then all of the sudden they no longer consider money to be evil, and even start complaining about taxation.
That's why I said it's if you are rich you will say money is not evil and vice versa.
> But not if you're 40 years old in good physical shape, writing "SMASH CAPITALISM!!" on the MacBook Pro all day long in your parents' house while drinking a Starbucks Matcha Late and wearing the latest Gucci accessoiries.
That is bizarre... why will they want to write that? They clearly know that others can't easily get rich with just hardworking. Are we even living in the same world lol? Or is this part of the "cool Japan"?
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Before quoting, I have to say that the way I read your comment, you seem to think in terms of you can only be either "rich as in multi trilionaire" or "poor as in being completely homeless wearing 30 year old clothing begging for food" with no middle ground possible.
Maybe you're not implying that, but it reads as such, which of course creates this whole concept of "money good vs money evil, not taking a position is literally impossible".
> In any means, I don't think you can get rich with just those money.
And neither was I implying that that's the case.
> That's why I said it's if you are rich you will say money is not evil and vice versa.
Not really, if you're rich you don't say "money is not evil", you just don't make a statement on whether it's evil or not, probably because you have better things to do in life than to worry about that.
> That is bizarre... why will they want to write that?
Government indoctrination, I mean public schooling, would be my guess.
No idea what's going on in their heads though...
> They clearly know that others can't easily get rich with just hardworking.
In my opinion, you don't necessarily need to get rich, as long as you can get around independently and thus not becoming a burden to all the rest of wherever you live, that's good enough.
As I already said, I'm neither rich nor poor, I do make ends meet without financial help from others (I do invoice customers, but I mean in the sense of getting paid for doing nothing).
> Are we even living in the same world lol?
Well I hope so.
And not going to respond to the last question.
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I was not being clear about the middle-ground, but it was just simply about those that (feel) benefited will defend the system while those that didn't (feel) benefited will attack against. Probably if you are/feel neither than it would be neither.
>> It just so happens that the only people who keep saying that money is evil are those who refuse to work while clearly being able to do so (so they can just milk "free money" from the entire rest of the population)
>> Those who refuse to work or have a student debt just love to attack money as a virtue signal (even if they don't realize this).
>> Because those who don't have money will get it from the state, which on its turn steals from those who work their asses off.
> Government indoctrination, I mean public schooling, would be my guess.
(some are quotes from older replies)
Yeah the states will shoot themselves in the foot, by denying its own system; and will happily allow you to live without "contribution"... Unless they are playing 4d chess?
I still don't get this "the only people who keep saying that money is evil are those who refuse to work while clearly being able to do so", and neither is this a common sense. Why is it "the only"?
Also you can't eat money as food or for other practical use. To eat (and do any other stuff) someone have to do the physical work, unless you exchange it with money. If money is evil (evil so that it should be abolished), can they achieve it without work?
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> it was just simply about those that (feel) benefited will defend the system while those that didn't (feel) benefited will attack against.
You can as well be benefited by the system while feeling like you're being oppressed by it, which I guess is what's going on here.
For example, people on state handouts trying to find work, but keep getting declined: "THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST ME!!"
Or something more on topic, people on state handouts and being provided by parents, and all that might as well have mental issues, and will come to the conclusion that "money destroys everything", even though they get it all for free (not as much as if they had to work for it, but still).
> Why is it "the only"?
My observation of reality.
You won't see people in a 3rd world shithole saying "money is evil" and "fuck capitalism (or any other ideology/religion/cult)" all day long, you see this exclusively in the 1st world, where state handouts exist.
And just to make it clear, 3rd worlders neither defend nor attack (to put it in your words) the system, they have way more important things to do like survival.
And I've actually been to multiple 3rd world countries before.
> Also you can't eat money as food or for other practical use.
Unless you use food as your money (aka, bartering).
Because "money" doesn't necessarily need to be printed on paper or minted from metal, as long as the soyciety around you agrees on what money is, you can use it as a money, which is actually how it worked even before banks.
"I want 10 eggs" "I want the belly of a freshly hunted pig" "Deal!"
If you're the one with 10 eggs, then eggs is your money, and the pig belly is your product.
And the other way around for the other party.
That's why realistically, this whole idea of "abolish the monetary system" is purely a Marxist fantasy.
Even in places where they tried to abolish it, they soon had another monetary system in place, maybe not because the government didn't want to, but simply because that's how humans work.
> To eat (and do any other stuff) someone have to do the physical work, unless you exchange it with money.
And then the question is, how was this money obtained?
By physical work? White collar work? Somebody just gave it to you? By stealing? By trade?
> If money is evil (evil so that it should be abolished), can they achieve it without work?
I wonder if there are any cases of laziness paying off in the long term.
I don't mean things like "I'll build systems to automate the agriculture for me", but rather "I'll just sit on my couch and wait for an Amazon drone to deliver freshly picked food for me".
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