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@syzygy @pernia @Inginsub @qint pernis is just talkin' crazy because he wants to run WINE instead of just doing the thing that people use if they are doing it for a living.
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @syzygy Man, if we're talkin' about a tool, we're talkin' about a tool. I say "fire it up in bochs and step through" and instead of "Oh, okay, I'm using emu8086 but I can step through" you go "does bochs tell you the value of registers".
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@p @Inginsub @qint @pernia @syzygy It appears you started it first by pointing out how he shouldn't use emu8086 in Wine (the only stable Linux ABI). The bzip2 debacle wasn't that long ago, was it?
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@p @Inginsub @qint @syzygy none of my problems have anything to do with the tools im using. Have fun masturbating about tools, im not joining the goon sesh, sorry.
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@mint @Inginsub @pernia @qint @syzygy
> (the only stable Linux ABI).
ABIs are stupid. The kernel still runs static binaries from the 90s. Dynamic linking was a mistake.
> The bzip2 debacle wasn't that long ago, was it?
xz?
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@p @Inginsub @qint @pernia @syzygy >Dynamic linking was a mistake.
TRVKE
>xz?
Well yes, you reminiscented about a hellthread that spawned from someone pointing out you still use bzip2 in 202X not that long ago.
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @syzygy You said you turned it in already and that it was already solved so that seems moot. Now we're discussing the inherent superiority of bochs.
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@p @Inginsub @qint @pernia @syzygy But now that we're here, I'd derail it further by pointing out that Bochs's accuracy in terms of stuff like timings sucks compared to 86box. I think it's a little less convenient for debugging, but you could still use gdb with it.
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@p @Inginsub @qint @syzygy
> Man, if we're talkin' about a tool, we're talkin' about a tool.
Whos "we" nigga??? You brought up bochs
> "Oh, okay, I'm using emu8086 but I can step through" you go "does bochs tell you the value of registers".
i said both. I dont need a different tool
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@mint @Inginsub @pernia @qint @syzygy Yeah, but I wasn't jumping in and telling him to use bochs out of nowhere, I just told him "fire up bochs and step through it" and he wants to argue about emulators instead of just stepping through the code.
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@p @Inginsub @qint @pernia @syzygy You instead linked a tarball of bin86, which he apparently couldn't build so he took the path of least resistance. The link itself returns 404 also.
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@p @Inginsub @qint @syzygy thanks p :hug:
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @syzygy
> bochs is GAY.
:no_u2:
> Also its solved but with zesty hacks i dont wanna share, id still like to figure out a proper solution
I dropped my code. All tested and working. Translate it into x86, you have more than just one register on x86. Should be easy.
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@p @Inginsub @qint @syzygy bochs is GAY.
Also its solved but with zesty hacks i dont wanna share, id still like to figure out a proper solution
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @p
Should've fuckin' used 8a(1)
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@mint @Inginsub @qint @p @syzygy pete cant help but drag a cracka's nuts through glass before giving him exactly what he needed.
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@mint @Inginsub @pernia @qint @syzygy Oh, yeah, I wanted to save him from running a stupid Windows binary under WINE. I also told him how to do the thing he wanted to do.
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@p @Inginsub @qint @pernia @syzygy Bochs essentially has a single CPU core and changing it, say, from Pentium II to Pentium just disables the instuctions specific to former. Haven't seen any fluoride in 86box aside from pisscord RPC integration.
>If it is real, it should probably get added to https://wiki.osdev.org/Emulator_Comparison at some point.
It appears there haven't been any major edits since 2009. PCem started in 2007 but I think haven't picked up the pace until 2010s, 86box forked off in 2016.
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@mint @Inginsub @pernia @qint @syzygy
> Bochs's accuracy in terms of stuff like timings sucks compared to 86box.
bochs targets accuracy; I haven't used 86box so I don't have an opinion, but it is fully fluoridated and appears to target gaming. If it is real, it should probably get added to https://wiki.osdev.org/Emulator_Comparison at some point.
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@mint @Inginsub @qint @p @syzygy ive seen good things from 86box. dosbox and emu8086 just gave me a way shorter devloop so i used those
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @p @syzygy @mint
To put more weight to my opinions.
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @p @mint
:yesivape: Duuude just use qemu
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@syzygy @Inginsub @qint @p @mint why are you in thia thread from 3 different accounts
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@syzygy @Inginsub @qint @p @mint fuckin 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @p @syzygy @mint
I should of read those library books instead of selling them for meth, but eeehhh.
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@pernia @Inginsub @mint @p @qint
escucho... voces...
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@pernia @Inginsub @qint @p @mint
I forget the logins for the others when the other voices take over.
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@syzygy @Inginsub @mint @pernia @qint @syzygy ChatGPT is a machine referring to itself in the first-person and I will kill it on the grounds that it is an abomination.
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@p @Inginsub @qint @pernia @syzygy @mint
Can't spell chatgpt without p.
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@pernia @mint @Inginsub @qint @syzygy cracka i am not wikipedia do you know what they do to a motherfucker that just dumps an assembly listing on a mailing list and asks people where his bug is DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO
YOU WILL BE GLAD TO HAVE YOUR NUTS DRAGGED THROUGH GLASS INSTEAD OF THAT
"Here's where you look that up" is more useful than "Let me spend a couple of hours to debug your shit for you".
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@p @Inginsub @qint @syzygy @mint
>do you know what they do to a motherfucker that just dumps an assembly listing on a mailing list and asks people where his bug is
i never did that you faggot. i'm askin a purely logical question, you don't need my code to think about it. showing you my work is not a request for you to lint it.
And you're pressing me for using wine instead of bochs or some assembler i already tried and failed to compile.
then you're telling me to look for a bootsector program in some obscure pdf file. wrong place wrong time nigger
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@pernia @Inginsub @mint @qint @syzygy pernis I ain't even know what you were asking that I didn't answer with "multiply then shift" but I ain't tryna have an argument about some shit I ain't even know what we're arguing about, I'd rather watch you go "b-baka" at syzygy a while.
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