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Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 08:23:01 JST 
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@SuperSnekFriend @tadano @branman65
The Blessed Virgin Mary, Eternal Queen of Heaven is not just a "mere woman." You should pray the Rosary.-
SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 08:30:26 JST 
SuperLutheran (Festive half)
@ArdainianRight @SuperSnekFriend @tadano @branman65 When was her apotheosis? -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 08:30:26 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@SuperLutheran @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65
When she was assumed into Heaven, body and soul. -
❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 08:36:02 JST 
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@ArdainianRight @tadano @branman65
She is no longer virgin in the Roman or Eastern sense.
Calling her "Eternal Queen of Heaven" is utter blasphemy and blaspheming something you Papists, Easternists, and Orientalists don't understand. -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 08:36:02 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@SuperSnekFriend @tadano @branman65
Nope. She's the mother of Jesus, who is the King of Heaven, which in the Jewish tradition would make her the Queen. We know she isn't God, but she is very important and deserving of veneration. Disrespecting her is disrespectful to Jesus. -
❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 08:46:59 JST
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@ArdainianRight @tadano @branman65
A fundamental category error and falsehood of Jewish customs
Who Christ is spiritually did not transfer any special spiritual title to Mary by His birth.
"While he was still speaking to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside, asking to speak to him.
Someone told him, 'Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, asking to speak to you'
But he replied to the man who told him, 'Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?"
And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers!
For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.'" (Matt. 12:46-50) -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 08:46:59 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@SuperSnekFriend @tadano @branman65
I mean, Mary is important because she did do the will of God by accepting Jesus. -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:32:42 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@nugger @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65
The real issue with Protestantism is trying to apply the norms of a post-printing press civilization backwards onto one which was heavily reliant on oral tradition which put sacred scripture into context. Both Catholics and Orthodox agree that veneration of Mary is important, and they're the only ones who claim an unbroken apostolic succession back to the time of Christ. I don't get the idea of Prots believing in Christ founding a Church, and including St. Paul and some of the early Church Fathers, but then all true religion disappears for about 1000 years until Martin Luther comes around. Admitting a lack of apostolic succession is admitting that you're not the true Church, and are just trying to scrape together what you can out of the Bible because the Church of Jesus no longer exists.† top dog :pedomustdie: likes this. -
nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:32:43 JST 
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@SuperSnekFriend @ArdainianRight @branman65 @tadano ROSARIES AND IMMACULATELY CONCEIVED COREDEMPTRIXES NONEWITHSTANDING BECAUSE I HADN'T READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING, OF COURSE (ARISTOCRATIC, VERY INTELLIGENT) -
nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:32:43 JST
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@SuperSnekFriend @ArdainianRight @branman65 @tadano I JUST DON'T GET WHERE THIS IDEA THAT MARY WAS NOT A VIRGIN ALL HER LIFE AND DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THE MIRACULOUS BABY THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH FROM HER AFTER A DIRECT ENCOUNTER WITH GOD AND SEEMINGLY REPEATED MEETINGS WITH AN ARCHANGEL WAS THE MESSIAH AT THE VERY LEAST -- CAME FROM
THERE IS ZERO RECORD OF ANYONE BELIEVING ANYTHING OF THE SORT UNTIL MAYBE TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO AND IT SEEMS JUST TO BE AN EDGY TAKE TO STICK IT TO THOSE MARY-WORSHIPPING PAPISTS -
❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:32:44 JST
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@ArdainianRight @tadano @branman65
It's amazing you ignored everything before Christ saying "whoever follows the will of God" to force your false belief where the Bible is repudiating it.
Mark 3 is clear why Mary and Christ' brothers wanted to speak with Him. They, including Mary, did not believe Him at the time:
"And when his family heard it, they went out to seize him, for they were saying, 'He is out of his mind.'" (Mk. 3:21, the Matthew 12:46-50 parallel is ten verse later in 3:31)
That is opposite of the mindset or behavior of the Roman "sinless and immaculately conceived Queen of Heaven" Mary. -
nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:32:44 JST
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@SuperSnekFriend @ArdainianRight @branman65 @tadano EHHHHHHHHH
YOU THINK THAT?
YOU THINK YOUNGER BROTHERS WOULD TALK DOWN LIKE THAT TO THE FIRST SON?
THEY'RE CLEARLY OLDER THAN JESUS, AND MARY'S OPINION DOESN'T COUNT FOR ANYTHING IN THAT FAMILY
MOREOVER FROM THE JAB OF "WE KNOW WHO O U R FATHERS ARE!" ITS PRETTY CLEAR THAT EVERYONE HAD AN OPINION ON JESUS' IMMACULATE CONCEPTION AND MARY'S REPUTATION AS A NUN GIVEN TO SAFEKEEPING TO AN OLDER GENTLEMAN WIDOWER
SO MUCH SO THAT JOSEPH'S SONS ARE PRETTY MUCH IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMON WISDOM REGARDING THEIR STEPBROTHER THRICE REMOVED AND HIS YOUNG MOM -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:37:11 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@SuperSnekFriend @tadano @branman65 @nugger
The word for "brothers" includes Jesus's extended family, and Matthew 1:25 only says that Joseph had no relations with her prior to her giving birth to Jesus, without saying whether they did or didn't afterward. 2000 years of tradition says they didn't. -
❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:37:12 JST
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@nugger @ArdainianRight @branman65 @tadano
>YOU THINK YOUNGER BROTHERS WOULD TALK DOWN LIKE THAT TO THE FIRST SON?
Yes, there is no rule or verse precluding brothers from such a thing at any point in history, even in a hierarchical society. What happened was not "Mary and the brothers talking down to Jesus". Joseph was dead by the start of Christ' ministry and unable to support them, and to the other family members, Christ was threatening the honor and social mobility of the family through His ministry and claims.
>MARY'S REPUTATION AS A NUN GIVEN TO SAFEKEEPING TO AN OLDER GENTLEMAN WIDOWER
Mary was given to John Bar Zebedee (John 19:26-27), who was the complete opposite of "older widower" at the time Christ transferred stewardship of Mary to John.
>REGARDING THEIR STEPBROTHER THRICE REMOVED
I don't presume ignorance of Christ' relationship with His brothers or Mary's marital relationship. Matthew 1:25 is clear that Joseph and Mary consummated after Jesus' birth, when Mary had Christ' half-brothers and sisters. I ask you not do the same.
I don't understand what larger point you are trying to make here. -
Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 09:37:27 JST 
Leyonhjelm
@ArdainianRight
Yep. Literally every aspect of breaking the church away from apostolic lineage is fanciful at the most generous interpretation
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Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 12:50:48 JST 
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@ArdainianRight @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @nugger tradition is vile, worthless, and utter shit and dreck -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 12:50:48 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@branman65 @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @nugger
While it's definitely possible to get too caught up in traditions, throwing them out entirely is retarded and self-destructive. -
❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 12:57:38 JST
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@branman65 @nugger @ArdainianRight @tadano
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Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 12:57:39 JST
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@SuperSnekFriend @nugger @ArdainianRight @tadano >jerome was a demoniac
holy shit I feel so vindicated -
Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 12:57:39 JST
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@SuperSnekFriend @nugger @ArdainianRight @tadano when did he put himself under that curse? -
❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 12:57:40 JST
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@nugger @ArdainianRight @branman65 @tadano
It's not a "recent invention" by "edge lord" gaytheists, Protestants, and academics.
Besides what Scriptures undoubtedly and clearly prove, explicitly and implicitly, there are plenty of anti-perpetual virginity writers before the Reformation:
Josephus (37-100), Antiquities Book XX, Chapter 9
ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete/complete.ii.xxi.ix.html
Hegesippus (165-175)
earlychristianwritings.com/text/hegesippus.html
Tertullian (150-230), On the Flesh of Christ, Ch. VII:
ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf03/anf03.v.vii.vii.html
Victorinus, Bishop of Petavium (c. 270)
According to that miser Jerome, in Chapter 19 of Against Helvidius
ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf206/npnf206.vi.v.html
Speaking Jerome, the main driver of the false doctrine of PVM, he put on himself the curse of 1 Timothy 4:1, so the history argument can be spun the other direction that the whole body of affirmers of PVM, 3rd Century on ward are all following a demoniac (Jerome) and not God's Word. -
Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 12:58:21 JST
Branman65🍟
@SuperSnekFriend @ArdainianRight @nugger @tadano he literally caused a young woman to starve herself to death anorexia style with his vile teachings. As soon as I really learned about him I always hated that evil, evil man. watching romanists/orthos try to defend this monster's actions made me more disgusted by those horrible false denominations even more. -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:22:22 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger @wgiwf
The rosary is an important part of the meditative and contemplative tradition in Western Christianity. Quiet meditation and contemplation are essential to spiritual growth, as some kinds of wisdom can only be attained through experience rather than simply reading. Some feelings can't be fully expressed in words. A lot of the interest in Eastern religions comes from the sterility of modern Christianity's devaluation of the mystical tradition. -
Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:22:23 JST 
Wolfgirl in Wheatfield
@ArdainianRight @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger The printing press changed how people actually think about everything. The knowledge of reading was so low for so long due to the inability of normal people to obtain books, (If no one has anything to read why learn how to?), and discourse was shaped by this fundamental constraint and molded around it. Religious artwork was originally created to inform the illiterate general public of what was in the bible. The western icon controversy and reformation wouldn't have been possible in the same way it happened without the printing press. -
Tadano (tadano@mt.watamelon.win)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:22:23 JST 
Tadano
@wgiwf @SuperSnekFriend @nugger @branman65 @ArdainianRight One interesting aspect of the rosary is that it played a similar role to the artwork in delivering gospel to the illiterate. You don't have to be literate to recite a prayer to the point of memorization. And once you can memorize it, you can contemplate on its meaning and subtleties in further detail without having to consult a book.
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† top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:30:02 JST 
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@ArdainianRight @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger @wgiwf I would like to interup for a moment, and just say >tradition is vile People who say this are the same who say that "culture" does not exist -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:34:06 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@dcc @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger @wgiwf
Yeah, that's an obvious full retard moment regardless of how you feel about the Catholic Church. You can criticize some traditions without totally scrapping tradition as a concept. -
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:42:31 JST
Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
@tadano @dcc @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger @wgiwf
Luther saw it even in his time, when more radical prots started throwing out the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. -
Tadano (tadano@mt.watamelon.win)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:42:32 JST
Tadano
@ArdainianRight @SuperSnekFriend @nugger @branman65 @wgiwf @dcc It's the logical conclusion of Sola Scriptura being accepted as a mantra. Luther, having taken knowledge of tradition for granted, is surely rolling in his grave.
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Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 13:51:44 JST
Wolfgirl in Wheatfield
@ArdainianRight @dcc @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger Often more than just the blanket rejection of things or embrace of some theological concept, it's the second and third order implications of the idea that is the most impactful. Once saved always saved is an idea that suffers from it's adherents reacting to and embracing the implications of it, (whether rightly or wrongly), eg., antinomianism/free grace as a wrong example. Ardainian Hebrew Israelite likes this. -
† top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 14:01:14 JST
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@tadano @ArdainianRight @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger @wgiwf
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Tadano (tadano@mt.watamelon.win)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 14:01:15 JST
Tadano
@ArdainianRight @SuperSnekFriend @nugger @branman65 @wgiwf @dcc "HOC EST CORPUS MEUM! HOC EST CORPUS MEUM!"
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Tadano (tadano@mt.watamelon.win)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 14:05:58 JST
Tadano
@SuperSnekFriend @nugger @branman65 @wgiwf @dcc @ArdainianRight As an aside, Palamas' writings on energy/essence distinction are what led me to understand the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
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Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Sep-2024 02:01:04 JST
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@ArdainianRight
I had never heard of lectio divina before attending RCIA and now it’s my favorite form of prayer. I don’t know what sects have even heard about it but I would love to hear if a Protestant wants to tell me how it’s going to make my soul burn for eternity. Or if they do it and don’t know what it’s called. Or if they don’t think it’s a form of prayer
Going from a very structured “all prayers are formatted like this” to not really knowing how to pray after leaving that behind to finding a whole world of prayers and methods that fit a myriad of needs and circumstances is incredibly freeing and a massive blessing in my life. It is astounding to me that there are so many who profess to be Christians who would rather convince each other that forms of prayer are invalid instead of encouraging each other to both pray more and to ask people both here and in the next world to pray for us. Personally I’ll take any prayer people offer for my benefit as long as it’s meant in earnest goodwill
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Giar Naga Thar (dicer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Sep-2024 06:33:43 JST 
Giar Naga Thar
@ArdainianRight @tadano @SuperSnekFriend @branman65 @nugger @wgiwf No need to tell me the 1st time.
The Book is all Protestants rely on and have forgotten the history, much like everything else. A society of amnesiacs.Ardainian Hebrew Israelite likes this. -
Tadano (tadano@mt.watamelon.win)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Sep-2024 06:44:58 JST
Tadano
@ArdainianRight @SuperSnekFriend @nugger @branman65 As I mentioned in another post, they're two sides of the same coin. Without scripture, the living tradition has no grounding and is liable to fly in the wind to God only knows where.
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