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1. Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 04:28:04 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

   ugh. I picked up a shitty NUC from ewaste and it had a label on it for an AI company.
   ahh, another startup that burnt out trying to build some silly AI project on crap hardware. I wonder what they did? I check their URL:
   ahh. healthcare. great, great.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 04:31:56 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     also I hope they wiped these hard drives

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 04:33:41 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     but given the state of them when they arrived at ewaste?

     no they did not

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 04:35:05 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     when you see a gaylord stacked high with NUCs and half of them still have USB fans attached, you know these were all just yanked off a shelf.
     no one wiped these.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:04:38 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     • gkrnours

     @gkrnours does your company name start with a C?

   • gkrnours (gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:04:39 JST gkrnours

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     @foone that sound suspiciously like my day job, you are scaring me

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:07:49 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     I have now stuck the hard drive in my imaging box

     it turns out it was in service as of June.

     and this one has log errors about the sensors in the bathroom and bedroom. this was used. fuck.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:10:07 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     HEY FUN FACT: this was used as part of an Alexa/google home type thing! this is the "cloud" half, as in the part sitting in a warehouse somewhere.
     It turns out every time the customer asked for something from the smart assistant, the WAV file was sent to the cloud box

     where it is still stored. and I now have eleven thousand wave files

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:21:22 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     god the logs are full of errors about assorted video streams failing.
     so this thing was connecting to something which had cameras. like, I can tell which room of the house failed.

     now I don't think there's any video stored on this device, but keep in mind: the fools that made this thing fill up with WAV files? they also designed the video streaming part. Where are those videos stored, and how safe are they?

   • Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:25:54 JST Glyph

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     @foone this has _got_ to be some kind of crime, right? like, not you having the wav files, but the fact that someone gave them to you. a HIPAA violation at the very least

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:25:54 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     • Glyph

     @glyph oh, most likely.
     but I probably have all this shit because they are gone and bankrupt

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:28:34 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     or maybe the fools who dumped all the NUCs from their entire "AI remote healthcare" in the recycling without yanking any drives are just somehow REALLY GOOD at knowing how to secure their s3 buckets.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:29:50 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     assuming their S3 keys aren't just saved in this harddrive somewhere

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:32:04 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     jesus christ this isn't the only time THIS MONTH I've found an IoT device and checked the filesystem contents and it's got their private git repos on it

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:38:36 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     and now I can email the lead developer.

     or just commit to their git repo, I guess.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:54:55 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     okay so the good news is that they don't just have S3 keys laying around in plain text.
     the other good news is that they have a secrets manager
     the bad news is that they rolled their own secrets manager
     the extra bad news is that I have the source for said secrets manager
     and the extra extra bad news is that it has to decrypt those keys without external input, meaning I have all the parts here to pull out their s3 keys

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 05:58:36 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

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     oh hey!

     this thing authenticates to some of their servers (which are still up, even if the company might not be (this is unknown at the moment)) over SSH! using keys kept in the same home-rolled vault thing!

     so I can SSH into their servers now!

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:08:12 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     oh god this thing sends email from gmail

     please tell me they didn't embed the google login into this device

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:18:10 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     tempted to drive past their HQ with a megaphone "I'VE GOT YOUR MODELS, YOU AI HACKS!"

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:22:42 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     wait. did they seriously stuff videos into their redis database?

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:32:29 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     they sure did! I have a video of someone picking something up from outside a door.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:44:15 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     okay found their S3 creds. they hardcoded them in a Jenkinsfile.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:46:45 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     not a good sign to see a bash case statement for environment, and prod sets the server to FOOBAR.EGG
     and test sets the server to... FOOBAR.EGG

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:53:45 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     • Gabriel Pettier

     @tshirtman yeah. they may have just moved everything to cloud-hosted and didn't need their wall of NUCs

   • Gabriel Pettier (tshirtman@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:53:46 JST Gabriel Pettier

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     @foone hm, are you *sure* they are bankrupt (i mean, not just technically 😆), if this was in production as of 2 months ago, maybe they just scaled away from this infra and sent everything to ewaste after migrating.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 06:55:11 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     anyway I'm gonna be near their HQ on thursday. Maybe I'll stop by and ask if they're still in business, and if they are, do they know where their NUCs are?

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 07:01:08 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     and in case anyone is getting deja-vu:

     This is a completely different company than the other one I found like 3 weeks ago:

     https://digipres.club/@foone/112817523308786223

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 07:09:31 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     I'm really not the right person to work in computer security research, but it'd be nice to have a sort of consulting job with a local one where I can just point them at some really broken shit and they investigate it and maybe give me a commission

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 07:11:07 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     because this keeps happening

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 07:26:28 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     • SeanOMik

     @SeanOMik local recycling center

   • SeanOMik (seanomik@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 07:26:29 JST SeanOMik

     in reply to

     @foone where do you find these devices? eBay? A local recycling center?

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 08:33:01 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     Why the fuck is this on hacker news? ugh. I'm gonna need to run my own mastodon instance, aren't I?

     If you found this on hacker news, you owe me 5$:

     https://digipres.club/@foone/112929955279707608

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 14:01:00 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     • Chris

     @cy I could give a good talk about that

   • Chris (cy@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Aug-2024 14:01:01 JST Chris

     in reply to

     @foone god this thread might fill an entire talk about “things you should not fuck up”

   • overflow (overflow@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 04:12:47 JST overflow

     in reply to
     @foone found on lobster.rs what do I owe you
   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 04:12:47 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     • overflow

     @overflow they're okay, haven't pissed me off yet

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 04:25:14 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     BTW I want to make something clear:
     remember how I said there was a gaylord full of NUCs?
     yeah. I took one. of like, a hundred.

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 04:26:33 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     I haven't exploited their git repos.
     I haven't misused their leaked AWS credentials
     I haven't gone to the media to try and expose this company.

     but I took only one of NUCs. The same content is on all the rest of them, I assume

   • Foone🏳️‍⚧️ (foone@digipres.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 05:55:49 JST Foone🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     • lp0 on fire :unverified:

     @lp0_on_fire I'll have you know if anyone is a gaylord full of computers, it is ME

   • lp0 on fire :unverified: (lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Thursday, 22-Aug-2024 05:55:50 JST lp0 on fire :unverified:

     in reply to

     @foone, yes: we all wondered why that person was full of NUCs and whether he appreciates being insulted like that.