@Metamedia @orangelantern From what I can determine, their argument for haplogroup similarity between Scandinavians and "Aryans" isn't entirely baseless. I got curious since I got my genetics run years ago and wanted to interpret them. Ambiguities arise because "Aryan" has been used differently by the Vedic civilization (in which it seems to have been a signifier for nobility, not directly ethnicity) and Persia (in which it seems to have been used primarily as a cultural self-descriptor for the purposes of excluding foreign peoples.)

However, I do remain unconvinced that "ancient Aryans were White™" on the basis that low melanin concentrations are typically an adaptation to higher latitude biomes with less sunlight. On the other hand, though, there *is* evidence of blue eye prevalency among some of these historical groups and castes.

Sadly it's a topic I have found it exceedingly difficult to research properly because both sides (yes, both sides, I don't care if it's a meme, it's actually true) are so deeply invested in misinformation. It's easy to weed out the total fantasists ("Aryans were from Atlantis/Hyperborea" etc.) but the other side's misinformation (intended to firmly break ANY cognition of a Germanic-Vedic link) is more insidious and well-executed. Stuff like this really frustrates me because these lies didn't NEED to be told, and telling them just compromises the integrity of institutions which are supposed to stand for truth and lends credence to their opponents' fantastical arguments.

As a final note, I'm glad that this desperate need to control information on this topic seems to have pervaded only through the field of genetics, with linguistics (e.g. the study of Indo-European languages) and comparative religion/mythology (e.g. the "Odin is from Scythia" hypothesis) left, seemingly, largely to their own devices.

tl;dr Controversial topics are almost impossible to research properly, and I think it's only going to get worse, and I find that incredibly frustrating because I actually want to know the TRUTH, not just support a foregone conclusion in one direction or the other.