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dubbub :windmill_of_friendship: ☦️ (dubbub@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Aug-2024 03:06:53 JST dubbub :windmill_of_friendship: ☦️ Never will understand how the tanto replaced the Fairbairn-Sykes in special forces knife fighting. The double edge allows you to grip it like a fencing foil thus maximizing your range by putting your point in line with your arm. It's also able to slash to either side.
If you use a single-edged knife in the same way you will always have a dull side to be bypassed on, not to mention that the grip isn't ergonomic for that. If you grip it like a hammer or saber you shorten your range because the tip is at an angel to your arm. Between trained fighters range is everything, it allows you to hit while not being hit.-
Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Aug-2024 03:06:52 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks @dubbub 90 to 95% of knife buyers just like it because it looks cool like a katana. They'll lie and say it's easy to sharpen but they don't even use them enough to worry about it. Manufacturers love the ease of production, improved durability compared to a Fairbairn.
And normie NPC buyers think that the FS design looks gay and dainty in comparison. But they never really are about IRL efficacy, just the world of fantasy
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PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Aug-2024 05:08:08 JST PunishedD @WashedOutGundamPilot @dubbub Normie buyers are also dealing with knife laws that frequently ban double edged weapons. The tanto is designed for penetration, it's a reasonable tradeoff if you need to stay legal.
For actual soldiers in the field I don't know what they go for. But they've also revived the "tactical tomahawk" so they aren't thinking of hand-to-hand combat the same way.Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this. -
dubbub :windmill_of_friendship: ☦️ (dubbub@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 20:52:46 JST dubbub :windmill_of_friendship: ☦️ @brigrammer No, it was made for cutting throats covertly (and winning the knife fight if you were spotted), not charging trenches.
The US had a very similar knife, the Gerber MK2, which never got adopted by the army but soldiers were buying on their own for the same reasons, namely it's an ideal fighting knife design. Pictured here with it is Vietnam War legend Jerry Shriver.New Janny in Town likes this. -
brigrammer (brigrammer@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 20:52:47 JST brigrammer @dubbub probably for the same reason the m16 bayonet isn't very good at being a bayonet - melee combat is extremely rare
how often will "special forces" be fighting trained knife fighters in a knife fight? how often will they need to use a knife for general purpose? -
dubbub :windmill_of_friendship: ☦️ (dubbub@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 20:52:47 JST dubbub :windmill_of_friendship: ☦️ @brigrammer >how often will "special forces" be fighting trained knife fighters in a knife fight?
The FS did see quite a bit of use in WW2. But if you're not gonna use a fighting knife, why even bother with a tanto and not just get a bayonet?
For a bayonet these concerns don't matter, bc it's mounted on a rifle, the problem arises when you use knife as a multitool (wirecutter, saw, bayonet, fighting knife) and it ends up doing nothing well. -
brigrammer (brigrammer@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-Aug-2024 20:52:47 JST brigrammer @dubbub but in WW2 folks were doing limited trench fighting with bolt actions and battle riffles, nowadays folks will be either getting blown up with grenades strapped to DJIs or trading suppressive bursts in the ruins of some shelled out oblast
I wish somebody made a long, lightweight spike bayonet for ARs because the SW M9 clone I have kinda sucks at everything
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