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@agaperealm @bobbala @zeke @KingOfWhiteAmerica
> the high moral standards required by Christ and Christianity
Is not the Gospel, but is legalism which is death.
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@zeke @hazlin @bobbala It certainly hasn’t escaped my observation that Christendom is - by-and-large - a White phenomenon. This is well borne out by the fact that, any time a non-White happens to become a Glorified Saint in the Church, they are called “the Black”, or whathaveyou.
And I don’t at all argue the Church is *wrong* about it.
But it’s obvious that no Saint I’ve ever seen is called “the White”, because it’s abundantly apparent White is the default.
This is what I meant with my earlier comment about the Ecclesiological distinction, that nevertheless exhibits tremendous overlap. I don’t think Orthodoxy is *closed* to non-Whites; just that non-Whites really don’t seem interested for the most part.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @zeke @hazlin @bobbala The capacity for the high moral standards required by Christ and Christianity is less prevalent among non-Whites. I mean this on a biological level.
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@zeke @bobbala @KingOfWhiteAmerica
> why do they not at all fit the criteria laid out by the Covenant Promises detailing God's then present and future plans for the Israelites?
though the promises were made long ago, they live now, as they did in the Bible, in rebellion to God.
There is no difference between white people and the modern day jews. Sure, they would like there to be one. But, their role was to carry an unbroken knowledge of who their God is, such was told about the House of Judea.
While the House of Israel was forced to lose their identity for a time. That white people and jews will be reunited as a nation, will surely offend people around here, but that is what is written. All the tribes back together again. But, under Christ this time.
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"There is no difference between White people and the modern day jews."
I don't buy that for a second. Their entire way of thinking and perceiving is utterly alien as compared to Whites. We wouldn't even imagine to do the kinds of things that they get up to on a routine basis. It's a night and day difference.
"But, their role was to carry an unbroken knowledge of who their God is, such was told about the House of Judea."
Piss poor job of that they've done if they are the remnants of the house of Judah, which I don't believe. Most of them are atheists anyway. Whites have done a much better job of it.
"That White people and jews will be reunited as a nation, will surely offend people around here, but that is what is written."
I certainly hope not. How would that even work? The same incompatibility between jews and Whites that has always existed would sow discord and lead to conflict yet again. I do believe that the House of Judah and the House of Israel are racial kin, I just don't believe that those people currently calling themselves jews constitute either one of them. They're usurpers and pretenders.
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@zeke @hazlin @bobbala Our Lord’s invitation is extended such that - through Faith and Holy Baptism - the Gentiles may be grafted in.
> “And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not high-minded, but fear: for if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.”
~ Romans 11:17-21
Regarding Holy Baptism:
> “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
~ Mark 16:16 KJV
This is Traditionally understood as referring to the possibility of Gentiles united with Israel. I’m not personally a CI guy, but I recognize it’s generally more reasonable than pretty much every mainstream Protestantism out there so I don’t get into fights about it. Trad Orthodoxy simply fits the data better imo.
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What I don't get is that if the jews are "God's Chosen People," which is a claim to the mantle of Israel, i.e. the modern day remnant of the Israelite people, why do they not at all fit the criteria laid out by the Covenant Promises detailing God's then present and future plans for the Israelites? The Covenant Promises amount to an historic and prophetic portrait of the Israelite people, and those people currently headquartered on the shores of the Mediterranean and calling themselves jews don't fit them at all, not to mention that they themselves embody none of God's attributes and all of those of his adversary.
Using the Covenant Promises alone you can rule them out along with every other race, but lo and behold, Whitey fits them like a glove.
The Bible refers to the end times quite specifically as the time of "Jacob's Trouble," wherein the descendants of the Israelite patriarch will be set upon by the Whole world. Well, take a look around and see who's being set up for annihilation.
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There's nothing legalistic about what I said. Jesus Christ himself said “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
~Mathew 15:24
He even told his apostles not to go anywhere else, and where did they go? The Epistles tell you where: Romans, Galatians, Colossians, etc., all European nations.
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@zeke @hazlin @bobbala > “Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”
~ Mark 16:14-15 KJV
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@bobbala @zeke @KingOfWhiteAmerica the fate of all legalisms is to redefine, and reinterpret, until their actions please God.
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