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1. Daniel Molkentin (danimo@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:28:30 JST Daniel Molkentin

   Me: Hey, Mozilla! How about a browser than can actually compete with Chromium?

   Mozilla: How about our cool Persona feature?

   Me: No, more like a modern rendering engine.

   Mozilla: LOL, we cancelled Servo.

   Me: Why would you-

   Mozilla: How about another shady VPN service instead?

   Me: But-

   Mozilla: Wait until you see our Mastodon Instance!

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   • Adrian Cochrane (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:31:34 JST Adrian Cochrane

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     • J. "Henry" Waugh

     @danimo @jhwgh1968 Didn't you forget Mozilla's annoying advertising where whenever you open their browser to pay attention to someone else they say "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!".

     Much of the rest I'm happy to roll my eyes at, but this is what really stops me from full-heartedly endorsing them.

   • Daniel Molkentin (danimo@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:31:35 JST Daniel Molkentin

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     • J. "Henry" Waugh

     @jhwgh1968 Looking at Firefox' steady decline in terms of users, the bugs that remain unfixed for over a decade, all the futile attempts to make Thunderbird less of a resource hogging mess and the fact that Rust is successfully standing on its own feet well outside Mozillas choking Umbrella and integrated in two main stream OS Kernels... Yeah, Rust it is.

   • J. "Henry" Waugh (jhwgh1968@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:31:45 JST J. "Henry" Waugh

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     @danimo I remember someone saying that the legacy of Mozilla may not be Firefox, but Rust

     That person may be correct sooner than they think at this rate 😟

   • Adrian Cochrane (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:42:28 JST Adrian Cochrane

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     • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷
     • Stephan Windmüller

     @larsmb @StephanWindmueller @danimo The EU has thrown some money at the problem via me! But judging by this discussion the competition I bring won't come in the form you want.

     https://nlnet.nl/project/Haphaestus/
     https://argonaut-constellation.org/2022/12/22/nlnet.html

   • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷 (larsmb@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:42:42 JST Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

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     • Stephan Windmüller

     @StephanWindmueller @danimo Once you hit one of the limits of Firefox, there is no alternative to chromium anymore.

     (e.g., I use it on desktop still, but can't on mobile - the Android SSL/TLS support is insufficient, and they're not able to fix it since literally a decade. And it's outside my skill set too.)

     That's the complaint: Mozilla has not done their core job. Unless someone like the EU throws money at the problem, the monopoly engine has won.

   • Stephan Windmüller (stephanwindmueller@digitalcourage.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 02:42:51 JST Stephan Windmüller

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     @danimo So which browser is the alternative then, in your opinion?

     Chromium still contains pre-made binaries from Google and uses several Google services (e.g. for Safe Browsing).