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1. New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 02:44:44 JST New Janny in Town
   Finished Thucydides this week, what a damn ride that was with a bit of unfinished part in the end. I would highly recommend this book to any history enthusiast because not only it contains much of the written account of the Pelopponesian War but also some philosophy from the era. Lemme quote one of my favorite philosophy guy "Thucydides is a cure to Plato".
   
   9.5/10. Would reread if I have the opportunity.
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 02:44:43 JST New Janny in Town

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     A book that was fundamental to my worldview, coming second to the Bible itself if rated by myself. Thus Sprach Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche.
     
     What's incredible about this book is the fact that herr Nietzsche himself wrote this book in 10 days with nothing but Will to Power. The end result is a 300 pages long book pregnant with philosophical value. The book started by the prophet, Zarathustra, going under the mountain after years of meditation, with a goal of spreading his wisdom to people. Many events then take place, he teach people and began gathering students. Yet he left them behind to search for something. After many encounters with various beings, he came back to his mountain. The book ended with the death of Zarathustra, but his death isn't a sad one, the beings he encountered in his travel came to him after witnessing the truth.
     
     The premise is simple yet the content of the book is surprisingly deep and funny. Believe it or not I laughed a lot when I read this book, I didn't believe everything Nietzsche wrote, which is what he intended anyway, but I kinda understand where his arguments came from. The part about a human being a bridge between beast and overman is something to be remember for my future self. The thing that you need to understand when you read Thus Sprach Zarathustra is Nietzsche's writing style, don't take anything at face value just because he wrote it like that. The prose is what makes it good, if you hate it then you're a nigger, sorry.
     
     Other good point about this book that I like is how it portrays human history unlike other people did at his time. Back in the 19th century, everything is about progress, nothing about the everlasting thing humans always do, the rise and fall of civilization. If you know me for a long time then you would know that I'm going to mention herr Spengler next but I'm too lazy to write about him. My point is, Nietzsche wrote something that's far more important than any machine, gold, and progress to us, our soul, that is. Something about it got overlooked in the age of progress. While the tool is progressing much further, our life seems to take a step back into nothingness. Nothing of value exist anymore to us, not even the Divine, there's only the bleak nothingness as far as the eyes can see. This is where Nietzsche or Zarathustra comes, to save mankind from this terrible disease. Offering us with new meaning of life, something to banish the terrible pessimism plaguing the world.
     
     Overall, it's a straight 10/10 for me. Reading this is one of the few reason I ended up like this, which is why I would recommend reading this book to people here.
     
     >"But MK2 no one read Thus Sprach Zarathustra first before any of his work"
     
     I did and it was good, rather than waste a time for a book that you won't even finish why not try the masterpiece instead? I read this first just because I was bored and everything turned out to be well. Of course after reading his other writings, everything makes more sense. Just go read the book if you think you won't be able to finish his other works before. Just be mindful about things that you don't understand. Oh and, don't read any footnote or introduction left by anyone but herr Nietzsche, it's a waste of time.
   • Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 02:52:01 JST Santa Noodle ☦️

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     @MK2boogaloo I do really want to read this but I've so little time at the moment. I should get a program that does natural style tts so I can listen to it if possible.
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 02:52:16 JST New Janny in Town

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     @BowsacNoodle or you could just download this and listen instantly.
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv5IyRuEVI4
   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 02:53:08 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo he expands on his concepts of "the last man" and the superman or ubermensch in this book, its a good read, i read it
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 02:56:59 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:
     @Floydian_Psychology yeah that's the underlying theme of the book. Kinda a shame because he failed to name some examples of Ubermensch in his life.
   • Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 02:57:14 JST Santa Noodle ☦️

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     @MK2boogaloo That works too thank you friend. I have a lot of books I want to read and limited space on my sail foam so I'm still hoping for a decent TTS app for net space and storage concerns but this is good.
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:00:22 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     @BowsacNoodle same here, I just wish I could finish my reading list before I'm married.
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:18:00 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:
     @Floydian_Psychology ubermensch did exist in the past, one such example is Napoleon but Nietzsche was such an intellectual that he didn't want to classify him as such. He doesn't talk about eugenics btw, where did you get that? His entire philosophy is about Will to Power. After all he's not really a racist.
   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:18:01 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo ubermensch isn't anybody that existed in his present time he meant a hypothetical type of person in the future, nietzsche and other philosphers of the time were proto-eugenicists and would influence the ideas of pro eugenics people later on
   • Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:18:37 JST Santa Noodle ☦️

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     @MK2boogaloo It just grows longer once you're married.
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:19:00 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Santa Noodle ☦️
     @BowsacNoodle true, but I don't want to be seen by my wife to read something like Decline of The West.
   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:22:09 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo he's a racist, you should read more of his stuff, you says things like every culture feels inferior to the ancient greeks, he points out how regular antisemitism is not enough and that people need to adopt his version of antisemitism which is based on race rather than religion etc
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:23:49 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:
     @Floydian_Psychology I did read his stuff, he comes to me as some sort of hippie regarding race because of his anti-Christian view. On the culture part, he was a Greek supremacist but he compared it to the Christian civilization instead of other civilizations. He even praised Hinduism and Buddhism as a counter civilization to the west.
     
     As for the anti-Jewish racial view, where did he wrote that?
   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:28:22 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo he wasn't classified as a eugenicist by historians but he was part of the social darwinist school of thought at the time which later would influence eugenics
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:28:46 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:
     @Floydian_Psychology I wouldn't call him a social darwinist because of his views of darwinism overall.
   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:29:02 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo it might fool some people because while he gives a few compliments to jews by admiring their high intelligence and ability to take over countries in the name of their race he at the same time writes about how he doesn't like the results of what jews do, he calls socrates spiritually jewish and ugly and says his philosophy was bad because he was ugly and felt insecure about it which is kind of funny and rare that you have philosophers using ad hominems but its nietzsche and he did that kind of thing
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:29:49 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:
     @Floydian_Psychology why even focus yourself on the jewish part? He called Socrates based on the physiognomy alone, I don't think he called him a jew, more like a thief and a liar based on his face alone.
   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:30:19 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo its in the twilight of the idols, its a short book, its also in some other stuff he wrote, he says the jews are bad because they spread slave morality, i'm summarizing but that's kind of the gist of why he didn't like jews
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:30:55 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:
     @Floydian_Psychology that's not really racism, it's because he considered Christianity as a product of the Jews, that's why he called them the spreader of slave morality. He basically called the Apostles as jews.
   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:33:56 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo its hard to parse out for some people because everyone views philosophers as dry writers , nietzsche is joking around and having fun in some cases but in most cases he's not
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   • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad: (floydian_psychology@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:34:14 JST Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:

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     @MK2boogaloo the first apostles were jews so he's right about that though
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   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 03:34:28 JST New Janny in Town

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     • Floydian_Psychology :sonnenrad: :windmill_of_friendship: :sonnenrad:
     @Floydian_Psychology yeah but this is less about Jews and more about Christianity.
   • BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 23:56:22 JST BattleDwarfGimli

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     Now do Procobius' "Secret History".
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 23:56:22 JST New Janny in Town

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     @BattleDwarfGimli I'm currently reading Anti-Education by Nietzsche.
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 23:58:28 JST New Janny in Town

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     • BattleDwarfGimli
     @BattleDwarfGimli dude if you're talking nonsense, then it should be about your Samhainigger or whatever.
   • BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 23:58:29 JST BattleDwarfGimli

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     Put that nonsense down for the moment and read Procobius. You can thank me later.
   • New Janny in Town (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 00:03:26 JST New Janny in Town

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     • BattleDwarfGimli
     @BattleDwarfGimli I can't believe that thing is thousands of years old, is it a girl? Then that means she's legal.
     
     As for the rest, shut up nerd. I'm not a Latinist Mediterranian nigger.
   • BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 00:03:27 JST BattleDwarfGimli

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     Samhain (pronounced "Sowyn") is thousands of years old. Nietzsche is a fad. Procobius is timeless.