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1. synapsid (synapsid@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:17:32 JST synapsid
   Everytime I shoot my glawk I think "ok it's actually not that bad"
   Then I shoot my friend's 1911 and go right back to "this is a piece of fucking shit"
   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:17:31 JST nugger

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     @synapsid WHICH BY THE WAY IS JUST DOGSHIT CONSCRIPT TRAINING CONSIDERATIONS
     
     THE GLOCK TRIGGER IS A FUCKING SAO IN FUNCTION WITH DOUBLE ACTION FEELING CREEP TO FULLY COCK THE STRIKER AS A DROP SAFETY
     WHICH IT DOESN'T REALLY NEED BECAUSE OF THE FIRING PIN BLOCK
     
     IIRC THE GRIP ANGLE WAS CHOSEN WITH GEN 1 SIGHTS EXPLICITLY TO MAKE EURO CONSCRIPTS PLAY THE GLOCK BALL AND CUP GAME
     AND POLYMER 80 STYLE FRAMES HAVE NORMAL HUMAN GRIP ANGLE
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:17:31 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @nugger @synapsid Gaston supposedly modeled the glock angle off of ergonomic studies using non-shooters. He wanted to find the most natural pointing form for the default, inexperienced, blank slate human.

     Add in the european tradition of highly raked grip angles - the luger was prized by literally everyone who ever beheld one - and it makes sense why it's so raked. Like any big split it's controversial because people accustomed to one set of muscle memory whine that they have to develop a new one for the second.

   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:17:32 JST nugger

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     @synapsid THE SIGHTS
     THE GOOFY GRIP ANGLE
     THE SINGLE-AND-A-HALF ACTION TRIGGER PULL
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:21:33 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @nugger @synapsid I think gun nerds have a real problem overblowing minor concerns because guns at their core are such a simple thing. Compared to more complex hobby machines, they're boring, so guys have to obsess over the same 3 details when they don't really matter that much in the grand scheme of things.

     The car fags don't obsess over shifter/wheel shapes this much. Maybe it's just the "machines as appliances" versus "machines as hobbies" aspect that bugs me. Everyone thinks they need a gunslinger's pistol, but if we're honest with ourselves we're better suited for a conscript pistol.

     I understand having a preference but I'm not sticking my nose up at a glock for its european accent when it brings the track record. I can't think of a failure in all my range time watching people shoot their duty guns, and that ain't something I can say for the hk fags. Maybe I just don't care enough, or I've gotten over the supposed reflex of drawing a g19 and growled because I have it tilted up 20º over the horizon

     But you never hear anyone complain after shooting a luger, I tell yeh huwhat

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:25:56 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @BowsacNoodle @nugger @synapsid It's impossible to say he didn't get damn close to perfection, because if you look at the market literally every company is bragging about how they "changed the game" by.....copying every element that set the glock apart in the first place.

     IDK I don't get how anyone cares so much about it, I like their funky character differences much more than they could bother me. If anything glock's greatest sin was setting the standard pistol template for 150 years to come. Even the nerdy fave companies look and feel more like glocks than they do their original steel framed parents. Favela styling writ large

     People want different until kel tec offers a lightweight pocket pistol you gotta feed with stripper clips, then.....ew why isn't it a polymer 9 w/ glock mags?

   • Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:25:57 JST Santa Noodle ☦️

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger @synapsid no one shoots like Gaston, designs guns like Gaston, in a gunsperg match nobody wins like Gaston
   • leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:26:04 JST leespringfield1903

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger @synapsid Magpul's MOE AR grips are roughly that same kind of angle.
     
     Compared to regular AR grips.
     
     The Magpul is basic bitch but it is also much much easier to install compared to any other grip like BCM.
     
     Magpul is slow to release products but they do make sure to make things generally easy to install.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:27:43 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @leespringfield1903 @nugger @synapsid I had a friend who freaked out when the HK grip was mostly vertical, he wasted $100+ on importing one as if it would make a difference

     I kept teasing him about it for a long time afterward, he spent all that money and he's STILL missing.

     I really loved magpul's biz back in the day, at least. I suspect they literally lost all the doers and thinkers 10 years ago, because they're basically an apparel company now.

   • fat ugly creepy angry retarded louser (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:27:54 JST fat ugly creepy angry retarded louser

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger @synapsid it was designed for conscripts/first time shooters
     then comp scene picked it up
     lots of people like it like how people still like the a2 pistol grip
     it just werks
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:28:34 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @professionalbigot69 @nugger @synapsid I really like the A2, too. Funny how it was just made by some army engineer tacking on fiberglass and dremeling it down until he liked it, and they ran with it from there

   • fat ugly creepy angry retarded louser (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:35:02 JST fat ugly creepy angry retarded louser

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger @synapsid i personally prefer the A1 because the nub hurts my fingers
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:35:02 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @professionalbigot69 @nugger @synapsid Everyone complaining about the A2 notch and glock grooves when I worked at the range had fat obese hands

     I know there are theoretically paw men out there who exceed the dimensions by bones, but it's like complaining that the steeply bolstered sport seats don't fit (which you can see have gotten shallower over the years as their buyer demographic chubs out)

   • BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:35:20 JST BroDrillard

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     >If anything glock's greatest sin was setting the standard pistol template for 150 years to come.
     
     Imagine, if we could have variations on this instead.
     😃 😢
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:36:30 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @BroDrillard @synapsid @BowsacNoodle @nugger WE DID AND YOU NUTSACKS NEVER BOUGHT IT

     WE WERE THIS CLOSE TO GREATNESS

     JUST LIKE 4 YEARS OF PRODUCTION AND THEY WOULD HAVE IRONED EVERYTHING OUT MAYBE

   • FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄 (lordmordred@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:36:48 JST FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @BowsacNoodle @nugger @synapsid We already had a handgun that uses stripper clips it's called The Steyr M1912
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:40:21 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @LordMordred @BowsacNoodle @nugger @synapsid No that's for botching a reload in the trenches of 1915 and getting killed by frenchman, this one is for botching a reload in a defensive shooting in 2005 and getting killed by niggers

     (I can't find the pic I'm thinking of, one of keltec's early ones had an internal magazine to keep it slim and light but it was like this)

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:49:08 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @leespringfield1903 @nugger @synapsid ......all products they came out with before 2014 though. Maybe it's just my youth talking but it was awesome seeing them put out stuff that you wanted that nobody made. A kid saving up for some fancy ambi rifle saw the BAD lever and had his whole game rearranged. Years of halfhanding a VG finally disappeared over night when they FINALLY split the difference and put out an AFG.

     There isn't anything like that magic today, where people were genuinely excited for new gun stuff. Magpul got bigger and overnight went from cool accessories to announcing sunglasses and iphone cases, never to come back

   • leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:49:09 JST leespringfield1903

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger @synapsid They still got useful good products like backup iron sights, especially the steel ones.
     
     And make other parts as well like the curved trigger guard and adjustable stocks along with the slings.
     
     Though they definitely stole the dust cover idea from strike industries. Basically install a dust cover without having to deal with the c clamp doodoo.
   • BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:51:34 JST BroDrillard

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     I can see what they attempted but it's not quite bold enough.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:52:08 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @BroDrillard @synapsid @BowsacNoodle @nugger It was too late, if they'd dropped it 10 years before it would have had a better chance. As it was it was just too big to hit the same market of weird freaks who love old guns enough to carry 380s

     and it went up against a horde of high cap pocket pistols

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 03:02:48 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @BroDrillard @synapsid @BowsacNoodle @nugger In a different world it would have been the sidearm of the american SS, stylistically similar to their pocket pistols over in germany

   • BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 03:02:49 JST BroDrillard

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     If somebody remade the Wolverine in 9mm...
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 04:05:22 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @synapsid @nugger the old steel CZ75s are like the white grandfather of these mulatto guns, holding up their noses and looking down on strikers because "you aren't white like us"

     (they refuse to accept their own negrification)

   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 04:05:23 JST Doc

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     cz uber alles
   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 04:16:02 JST Doc

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     steel CZs hold a special place in my heart and so does the polymer cz scorpion evo hh
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     @d0c40r0 @synapsid @nugger I had a cool 75 on trade for a while, traded it away for something else not too long after. It was cool, just not "me". It was slick and all but not quite the race gun people pretended, and having funky steel mags wasn't my fave. I think I had a 226 around that time too, which I also sold off. I just didn't fall in love with them enough to want to carry them, and I didn't shoot any better than boring striker fire tupperware. Fun to look at though.

     I'm pretty neurotic about fighting guns, I don't like owning anything unless I have enough mags to last me the rest of my life. Grew up listening to guys freak out over the AWB so now I feel angsty looking at the safe and seeing 2 mags for some boutique platform. It's why I still haven't bought my buddy's nice old Stars and SW59s.

   • Chzikken (chzikken_1486@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 04:21:45 JST Chzikken

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     Yes, stockpile mags and mag parts.
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   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 04:21:49 JST Doc

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     cz 75 d compact with a competition trigger, lots and lots of fun
     
     if I were to buy one myself I'd probably go for a full size but it's still real accurate and nicely balanced, fits in the hand good
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 04:24:15 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 @synapsid @nugger I had the standard, full size, with some kind of non-standard trigger because it was pretty good, silver, on a black frame. It just wasn't amazing and when a bit of time went by I realized I was never excited to take it out, so I sold it off to find something that did.

     I want to try one of those 2011s in 9, but everyone I've ever met with one had no end of problems. I don't have the patience for that. In the back of my head I think of my grandson having to entrust his life to these things after grabbing them out of hiding, i want to be secure in the fact they'll work 99%

   • Armadillo Rancher (armadillorancher@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 04:24:25 JST Armadillo Rancher

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     Nills grips and an Apex trigger kit....
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   • Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 06:52:55 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot

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     @BroDrillard @WashedOutGundamPilot @synapsid @BowsacNoodle @nugger glock will last at least 200, along with the AK
     
     things will be added to the platform, but the frame is too cheap, too functional to replace
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   • sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 05:06:33 JST sapphire

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @synapsid @nugger tldr: everyone I’ve talked to that’s actually had to shoot someone with it swears by their glock
   • Account: Firearms (gat@mu.zaitcev.nu)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jul-2024 05:06:33 JST Account: Firearms

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     @sapphire @synapsid @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger
     
     The things I appreciate the most about Glock is simplicity and safety.
     
     Several common designs have a striker block that is located at the tail. If striker were to break, its spring will easily slam the remaining section in the primer. But on Glock, the safety is out in front, ahead of the place where the spring applies force on the striker.
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