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1. Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:06:31 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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   @mntmn your profile mentions RISCV which tells me you got some passion for that topic, but I checked your website and I see no mention of RISCV there. Do you have any plans for that in the future? For the laptop which you are selling.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:06:20 JST minute

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     @darth what i did so far in regards to risc-v:
     — https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2022-09-29-rkx7-showcase.html
     — https://wiki.f-si.org/index.php?title=The_road_to_fully_open_hardware_mobile_computing

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:09:47 JST minute

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     @darth yes, it is the abstract of my keynote speech which is linked there

   • Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:09:48 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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     • minute

     @mntmn is that "Abstract" paragraph your sentence? I wholeheartedly agree with it.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:26:08 JST minute

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     @darth i don't know and i don't have good data for guessing. maybe next year? also, will they have slightly competitive GPUs with open source drivers (mesa)? otherwise, it's not worth for us to integrate vs ARM, as most people will try it for a few days and then it'll end up in a drawer because it's too slow.

     as for GPUs, we're only now approaching really interesting terrain on ARM with higher-end mali and panthor/panvk, or adreno with qualcomm (qc chips are quite complicated though)

   • Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:26:11 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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     • minute

     @mntmn would you dare guessing when will RISC V chips be ready for laptops?

     I will explain what I mean by "ready". Snapdragon ARM chips from a couple of years ago were attempted in laptops, but nobody wanted them. They were underwhelming for desktop usage. The new X Elite now seems to have jumper a couple of generations and is now ready for even mainstream.

     StarFive JH7110 seems to be weaker than RaspberryPi 4, and Pi is a bit of a stretch in terms of desktop compute power. At least the RPi4.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:27:36 JST minute

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     @darth no idea because i don't have insider info @ what's going on with risc-v chip manufacturers.

   • Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:27:46 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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     • minute

     @mntmn do you think you will be able to use RISC V in your laptops in the next couple of years and call it an end-user-ready product?

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:31:46 JST minute

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     @darth one thing i don't understand though is why people call the current risc-v socs more open than arm socs. only because you don't pay royalties for the isa doesn't make the design open, i.e. the sifive perf cores are not open and neither is the rest of the IP in those chips

   • Darth ŠČ! ✞ (darth@silversword.online)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 00:31:47 JST Darth ŠČ! ✞

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     • minute

     @mntmn I am typing this on a trusty ThinkPad T480. I would love to have something like this, but with much longer battery life. Obviously ARM is promising, but if it would be an open platform it would be even better.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 01:37:39 JST minute

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     • Tagemori

     @tagemori @darth i know this (see above) and that's cool, but it has not translated at all into open risc-v socs (that could be used for general purpose computing)

   • Tagemori (tagemori@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 01:37:40 JST Tagemori

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     • minute
     @mntmn @darth In the case of RISC-V, anyone can absolutely legally make their own CPU and put its code in the public domain. This is actively used, there are many open cores for both silicon and FPGA.