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1. mullvad (shlomo@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 00:12:51 JST mullvad
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   • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 00:12:50 JST Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @WandererUber @Shlomo LDR, DPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye go officially to RF instead of de facto. No more whining about Crimea. Sanctions get lifted. Agreement to not join NATO and remain neutral. No mention of Odessa or Nikolaev. That was pretty much it.
     
     Honestly, it was the best deal possible at this time. They would have kept some Black Sea access. Sad. Now they're just gonna keep getting ground down.
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   • Largo (largo@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 00:12:50 JST Largo

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     • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @TrevorGoodchild @WandererUber @Shlomo I'm surprised how unharsh the terms were.
     
     Is Bad Vlad going soft?
   • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 00:12:50 JST Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     • Largo
     @Largo @WandererUber @Shlomo He tacked on 'lifting of US sanctions' at the end to make sure they knew it was a subtle 'fuck you' and not a real offer
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   • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 00:12:51 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @Shlomo what was the proposal? We take all your eastern territory and turn you into a vassal state without an army and no sea access? Again?
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