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1. minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:03:25 JST minute

   just checking: there's no way to snap component positions to say 0.1mm grid in KiCAD 8.x pcbnew, right? (kicad-action-tools is supposedly incompatible). i often get components that have coordinates like X 119.685. i want to cut off those decimals. how, except for mind-numbing manual work?

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:15:32 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam

     @martijnbraam does not work for me

   • Martijn Braam (martijnbraam@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:15:33 JST Martijn Braam

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     @mntmn I just set a grid, then hover over whatever I want as origin in the footprint and press M to move, then it will snap that shape in the footprint to the grid while moving.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:16:20 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam

     @martijnbraam

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:17:15 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam

     @martijnbraam grid is set to 0.1mm, it keeps the Y 0.095 around wherever i move it

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:17:40 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam

     @martijnbraam no? i can remove that manually and then it's fine

   • Martijn Braam (martijnbraam@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:17:41 JST Martijn Braam

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     @mntmn you will still keep the fractional part in the footprint position if the pad you're hovering over isn't in the origin of the footprint, so it depends on the footprint.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:18:16 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam

     @martijnbraam also i'm not moving pads but the whole footprint

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:20:50 JST minute

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     this issue comes from the algorithm that places the parts when they're initially created via "update pcb from schematic". it likes to pollute everything with random decimal digits that are hard to get rid of

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:26:58 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam
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     @lkundrak @martijnbraam it doesn't work like that at all?

   • HAMMER SMASHED FILESYSTEM 🇺🇦 (lkundrak@metalhead.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:26:59 JST HAMMER SMASHED FILESYSTEM 🇺🇦

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     • Martijn Braam

     @mntmn @martijnbraam i think what martijn is pointing out is that the position of the object at the end of the move depends on where the mouse cursor was when you started moving
     make sure your cursor is somewhere near a pad you want to end up aligned on a grid when you press "m" and start moving

   • Martijn Braam (martijnbraam@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:41:41 JST Martijn Braam

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     • HAMMER SMASHED FILESYSTEM 🇺🇦

     @mntmn @lkundrak
     It certainly does work like that...

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:41:41 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam
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     @martijnbraam @lkundrak fascinating, it behaves totally differently here (8.0.1 from debian). i wish it was like it is in your version:

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:42:22 JST minute

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     • Martijn Braam
     • HAMMER SMASHED FILESYSTEM 🇺🇦

     @lkundrak @martijnbraam yeah, my version (kicad 8.0.1 on debian) appears to do things differently, and i don't know why: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/112604171335510709

   • HAMMER SMASHED FILESYSTEM 🇺🇦 (lkundrak@metalhead.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:42:23 JST HAMMER SMASHED FILESYSTEM 🇺🇦

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     • Martijn Braam

     @mntmn @martijnbraam then we're having a collective hallucination or some sort of a misunderstanding.
     for me, the pad the mouse was over when i started moving is most certainly what ends up aligned with the grid even if the footprint's (0,0) does not
     i don't remember it always being that way, but in 7.x and 8.x it seems to be the case

     (or maybe there's a configuration knob some of us have flipped?)

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:46:00 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @niklasnisbeth @martijnbraam not on my kicad though (now 8.0.3 on linux). does kicad work differently on windows?

   • Niklas (niklasnisbeth@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:46:01 JST Niklas

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     • Martijn Braam

     @martijnbraam @mntmn I might be misunderstanding you, but just if you don't know, Kicad lets you grab both the footprint origin/center and a pad and position the whole footprint based on which part you grabbed to move it. So if you grab the pad and place that in (10,10), the component center/origin will look off if that pad isn't an even fraction of a mm away from the origin. I think you can tell from the highlight when you're moving. It's not obvious at all.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:48:52 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @martijnbraam @niklasnisbeth bizarre. for me, clicking and dragging and M behave the same. if i hold control while moving, it stops moving in grid increments (moves freely)

   • Martijn Braam (martijnbraam@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:48:53 JST Martijn Braam

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     • Niklas

     @mntmn @niklasnisbeth It does the same thing on my linux box. I don't remember ever changing any settings for it and I've nuked my kicad config last week on linux anyway. I get your behavior when I click-and-drag a footprint though. It took me a bit to realize that using M and not clicking has completely different semantics

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:50:55 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @niklasnisbeth @martijnbraam which version of kicad from which linux distro? wayland or X?

   • Niklas (niklasnisbeth@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:50:56 JST Niklas

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     • Martijn Braam

     @martijnbraam @mntmn Eh, I'm doing it right now! On Linux. I couldn't say about Windows, I've only ever really used it to play Half-Life 2 - when it was new...

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:56:17 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @martijnbraam @niklasnisbeth ok, moving my .config/kicad away changes the behavior! but pointer warping is on by default which doesn't work with wayland

   • RastPort (rastport@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:57:43 JST RastPort

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     • Niklas

     @mntmn @niklasnisbeth @martijnbraam Tested with KiCAD 8.0.2 on Ubuntu. Works as @niklasnisbeth describes. Grab component center, then it will be aligned to the grid. Grab a pad, pad center will be aligned to the grid, so component center will not, especially if pin pitch of the component is in inches/mils.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:58:15 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @martijnbraam @niklasnisbeth and that's the issue. disabling "Warp mouse to origin of moved object", which i have to do on wayland, breaks the grid snapping!!

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 23:58:35 JST minute

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     • RastPort
     • Niklas

     @rastport @niklasnisbeth @martijnbraam let me guess, X11 based desktop?

   • RastPort (rastport@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 00:00:15 JST RastPort

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     @mntmn Not a Linux expert, so not sure – default XUbuntu 22 installation with XFCE.

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 00:08:08 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @martijnbraam @niklasnisbeth what happens if you turn off Editing -> "Warp mouse to origin of moved object" in Common preferences? This causes the issue for me

   • Martijn Braam (martijnbraam@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 00:08:09 JST Martijn Braam

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     • Niklas

     @mntmn @niklasnisbeth I'm on Kicad 8.0.1, maybe it's a regression?

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 00:13:11 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @martijnbraam @niklasnisbeth at top right here

   • Martijn Braam (martijnbraam@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 00:13:12 JST Martijn Braam

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     • Niklas

     @mntmn @niklasnisbeth I don't seem to have that option

   • minute (mntmn@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 00:17:15 JST minute

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     • Niklas

     @martijnbraam @niklasnisbeth thanks a lot for checking!

   • Martijn Braam (martijnbraam@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 00:17:16 JST Martijn Braam

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     • Niklas

     @mntmn @niklasnisbeth ah I was searching in the PCB editor settings. Yeah disabling that removes the aligning behavior for me.