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mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 04:45:40 JST mental meltdown @basadeskaiser @marine @hermit @NEETzsche @errante @skylar How long did Goebbels or Donitz last? Lincolns ideology succeeded in being the foundation of the modern American nation state while all Hitler did was seal the calamitous end to the project that Bismarck started. -
mental meltdown (netdoll@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 04:50:04 JST mental meltdown @basadeskaiser @marine @hermit @NEETzsche @errante @skylar Secured the industrial primacy of the nation and shepherded it into the 20th century as a great power which was not at all a sure thing prior to the Civil War. Also held the promise to break feudalism in the South but obstinate landed gentry did their level best to make sure to make sure those changes weren't implemented, to the detriment of both the freed slaves and the poor white underclass who was also at their every whim. -
Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 04:50:05 JST Basades Kaiser @netdoll @marine @hermit @NEETzsche @errante @skylar how did Lincoln's ideology benefit the American people? -
NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 04:53:17 JST NEETzsche How did Hitler’s ideology benefit the German people? Give a long-term (50 year) analysis of the benefits of Nazism, starting in 1933 when Nazi Germany was founded, and continue through the rest of Germany’s occupied history until 1983.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 05:00:38 JST NEETzsche You’re going to have to account for all the degeneracy it caused post-conquest. Since you’re making an appeal to consequences we’re going to look at the consequences, including the forced labor (that’s like the opposite of vacations), deliberate withholding of food to prevent uprising, etc. Then there were all of the Soviet abuses that went on well past 1946, although the capitalist Americans were much more lenient.
Yes, this does have to be part of your analysis of how “National Socialism” worked out in the long run, since we’re doing a consequentialism here.
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Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 05:00:39 JST Basades Kaiser @NEETzsche @marine @hermit @errante @netdoll @skylar how is curb degeneracy, prostitution and the Weimar social collapse and giving the people vacations, stability and jobs a bad thing?
If you don't have anything better than nationasocialism that can also win a war against the entire world then I don't care. -
Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 05:20:21 JST Basades Kaiser @NEETzsche @marine @hermit @errante @netdoll @skylar curiously it happened after nationalsocialism. They were doing fine with it before it was taken away by the allied pigs.
Now tell me, what's your war winning alternative. I don't want to waste my energy in nationalsocialism if there is something even better.
And please don't tell me about some obscure reactionary faggot that nobody knows who the hell he was I am open to new stuff. -
Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 05:20:22 JST Basades Kaiser @NEETzsche @marine @hermit @errante @netdoll @skylar I refuse, those policies were implemented by the western occupiers.
Those are the same policies that Germans rebelled against to begin with.
The post nationalsocialism and the pre nationalsocialism world are both shit. -
NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 05:20:22 JST NEETzsche You can’t refuse. If the consequences of your regime are conquest, then the consequences of that conquest are also the consequences of your regime. So. Tell us about how great “National Socialism” worked out for those German people who were literally enslaved and starved after Nazi Germany was conquered. This is part of the story of “National Socialism” whether you approve or otherwise.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Feb-2023 05:21:03 JST NEETzsche Okay so tell me why I should sign up for enslavement and starvation. Seriously. Tell me why I should sign up for this, because these are the historical consequences of “National Socialism.”
Or do the consequences just not matter because muh Hitler?
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